350Z trans adapter?
05-21-15, 07:43 AM
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If you took your current idea, and had the bushing sit into a well, but made it sit far enough down in there that it couldn't pop out, and you had room to push the whole shifter downward to get under the lockout plate..you could use a miata/rx-8 type of shifter, no?
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05-21-15, 08:56 AM
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350Z to JZ setup that Im running
Im currently in the process of doing the CD009 to JZ swap. If you look in my build thread you will see that Im using the hoke performance shifter relocation and had a welder that has done this swap modify my stock 350Z shifter. heres the link to my thread and the post # is 28.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/bui...c3t-build.html
I will try to get more pictures as I progress right now my buddy is in the process of beating the trans tunnel in some.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/bui...c3t-build.html
I will try to get more pictures as I progress right now my buddy is in the process of beating the trans tunnel in some.
05-21-15, 09:07 AM
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Halon those are some nice numbers, how is the clutch feel and how is it holding that type of power?
got a dyno =)
jkp, yeah I think you are on point on the bushing, I was wondering the same thing after I saw the rx8 one it looks to me like the whole shifter moves down. if the bushing was deep enough I would think it would work just fine.
the 240sx base fits pretty well but it has extra springs in it to keep the shifter centered which stiffens things up. those springs can be cut down so its a little softer which I did, but its funny that the shifter base is designed so the shifter could move up and down, it just doesn't.
I'll play around with the idea but I am thinking about a new one let me know what you think. I feel like a reverse lockout sleeve is the best as it keeps all the linkage simple and tight down below.
take the 240sx shifter rod, right where it comes out of the shifter base cut the top half off, then weld the top portion of a v160 short shifter on it with the whole lockout mechanism. the shifter would be straight from the part you weld it but you can have a small bend at the bottom. it comes with all the stuff you would need to make reverse mechanism work, and best part we can use toyota shift ***** again (nissan has a different thread pitch).
they are about $60 online.
It even looks like you can put the v160 lockout sleeve over the top half of the 240sx shifter where its narrow asthey both have orings up there on the narrow part of the shaft, but the 240sx shifter isn't narrow all the way down its thicker at the bottom so unless we turn it down on a lathe that wouldn't work cause the lockout needs to be close to the bottom. I may order one of these and play around with it some.
got a dyno =)
jkp, yeah I think you are on point on the bushing, I was wondering the same thing after I saw the rx8 one it looks to me like the whole shifter moves down. if the bushing was deep enough I would think it would work just fine.
the 240sx base fits pretty well but it has extra springs in it to keep the shifter centered which stiffens things up. those springs can be cut down so its a little softer which I did, but its funny that the shifter base is designed so the shifter could move up and down, it just doesn't.
I'll play around with the idea but I am thinking about a new one let me know what you think. I feel like a reverse lockout sleeve is the best as it keeps all the linkage simple and tight down below.
take the 240sx shifter rod, right where it comes out of the shifter base cut the top half off, then weld the top portion of a v160 short shifter on it with the whole lockout mechanism. the shifter would be straight from the part you weld it but you can have a small bend at the bottom. it comes with all the stuff you would need to make reverse mechanism work, and best part we can use toyota shift ***** again (nissan has a different thread pitch).
they are about $60 online.
It even looks like you can put the v160 lockout sleeve over the top half of the 240sx shifter where its narrow asthey both have orings up there on the narrow part of the shaft, but the 240sx shifter isn't narrow all the way down its thicker at the bottom so unless we turn it down on a lathe that wouldn't work cause the lockout needs to be close to the bottom. I may order one of these and play around with it some.
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05-21-15, 10:08 AM
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https://www.clublexus.com/forums/bui...ml#post9047299
Clutch feel is fine, and clutch is holding fine so far. It's still a single full face disc type setup, so no real chatter. Pedal is heavier than stock but nothing crazy, I guess I'm used to heavier pedals anyway, my past car I ran an ACT 2900.
05-21-15, 10:22 AM
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Halon those are some nice numbers, how is the clutch feel and how is it holding that type of power?
got a dyno =)
jkp, yeah I think you are on point on the bushing, I was wondering the same thing after I saw the rx8 one it looks to me like the whole shifter moves down. if the bushing was deep enough I would think it would work just fine.
the 240sx base fits pretty well but it has extra springs in it to keep the shifter centered which stiffens things up. those springs can be cut down so its a little softer which I did, but its funny that the shifter base is designed so the shifter could move up and down, it just doesn't.
I'll play around with the idea but I am thinking about a new one let me know what you think. I feel like a reverse lockout sleeve is the best as it keeps all the linkage simple and tight down below.
take the 240sx shifter rod, right where it comes out of the shifter base cut the top half off, then weld the top portion of a v160 short shifter on it with the whole lockout mechanism. the shifter would be straight from the part you weld it but you can have a small bend at the bottom. it comes with all the stuff you would need to make reverse mechanism work, and best part we can use toyota shift ***** again (nissan has a different thread pitch).
they are about $60 online.
It even looks like you can put the v160 lockout sleeve over the top half of the 240sx shifter where its narrow asthey both have orings up there on the narrow part of the shaft, but the 240sx shifter isn't narrow all the way down its thicker at the bottom so unless we turn it down on a lathe that wouldn't work cause the lockout needs to be close to the bottom. I may order one of these and play around with it some.
got a dyno =)
jkp, yeah I think you are on point on the bushing, I was wondering the same thing after I saw the rx8 one it looks to me like the whole shifter moves down. if the bushing was deep enough I would think it would work just fine.
the 240sx base fits pretty well but it has extra springs in it to keep the shifter centered which stiffens things up. those springs can be cut down so its a little softer which I did, but its funny that the shifter base is designed so the shifter could move up and down, it just doesn't.
I'll play around with the idea but I am thinking about a new one let me know what you think. I feel like a reverse lockout sleeve is the best as it keeps all the linkage simple and tight down below.
take the 240sx shifter rod, right where it comes out of the shifter base cut the top half off, then weld the top portion of a v160 short shifter on it with the whole lockout mechanism. the shifter would be straight from the part you weld it but you can have a small bend at the bottom. it comes with all the stuff you would need to make reverse mechanism work, and best part we can use toyota shift ***** again (nissan has a different thread pitch).
they are about $60 online.
It even looks like you can put the v160 lockout sleeve over the top half of the 240sx shifter where its narrow asthey both have orings up there on the narrow part of the shaft, but the 240sx shifter isn't narrow all the way down its thicker at the bottom so unless we turn it down on a lathe that wouldn't work cause the lockout needs to be close to the bottom. I may order one of these and play around with it some.
I don't understand how the lockout would work if the part of the shifter that the sleeve is on is not centered in the shifter base any longer. Would you add something to the lockout plate to pickup the new location of the sleeve?
I am glad you are thinking the current setup with a different bushing/cup might work too..pretty simple and could be a fall back if your new idea doesn't work out.
05-21-15, 10:29 AM
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Im currently in the process of doing the CD009 to JZ swap. If you look in my build thread you will see that Im using the hoke performance shifter relocation and had a welder that has done this swap modify my stock 350Z shifter. heres the link to my thread and the post # is 28.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/bui...c3t-build.html
I will try to get more pictures as I progress right now my buddy is in the process of beating the trans tunnel in some.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/bui...c3t-build.html
I will try to get more pictures as I progress right now my buddy is in the process of beating the trans tunnel in some.
I have been talking to Brett F. for a while now keeping tabs on his build and such. He has been very helpful!
05-21-15, 10:47 AM
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If the way Ali has it right now has really tight shifting 1-6, and Reverse really does require you to go way over, meaning the chances of accidentally going into reverse on a 5 to 6 are pretty much nil, I'd be willing to just forgo the lockout. And really how often are you slamming a 5-6 shift extremely fast? I can see slamming 1-4 a lot while doing some spirited driving, but 6th, me personally not to concerned. So Ali once you sort of finalize your non-lockout setup, I might have to give that a shot some day.
05-21-15, 10:51 AM
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Yeah, that is true.
I had a 2002 Maxima 6-speed for many years and even without the lockout it would have been very obvious going into reverse versus 6th. I am fine without the lockout as well..this has got me thinking about how to add it since I don't have anything in my car currently anyway, lol.
I had a 2002 Maxima 6-speed for many years and even without the lockout it would have been very obvious going into reverse versus 6th. I am fine without the lockout as well..this has got me thinking about how to add it since I don't have anything in my car currently anyway, lol.
05-21-15, 11:13 AM
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https://www.clublexus.com/forums/bui...ml#post9047299
Clutch feel is fine, and clutch is holding fine so far. It's still a single full face disc type setup, so no real chatter. Pedal is heavier than stock but nothing crazy, I guess I'm used to heavier pedals anyway, my past car I ran an ACT 2900.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/bui...ml#post9047299
Clutch feel is fine, and clutch is holding fine so far. It's still a single full face disc type setup, so no real chatter. Pedal is heavier than stock but nothing crazy, I guess I'm used to heavier pedals anyway, my past car I ran an ACT 2900.
I really like that a single full face disc is holding that, what pressure plate you on?
I think I want the same thing tired of 6 puck chatter over here.
I understand what you are saying..kind of.
I don't understand how the lockout would work if the part of the shifter that the sleeve is on is not centered in the shifter base any longer. Would you add something to the lockout plate to pickup the new location of the sleeve?
I am glad you are thinking the current setup with a different bushing/cup might work too..pretty simple and could be a fall back if your new idea doesn't work out.
I don't understand how the lockout would work if the part of the shifter that the sleeve is on is not centered in the shifter base any longer. Would you add something to the lockout plate to pickup the new location of the sleeve?
I am glad you are thinking the current setup with a different bushing/cup might work too..pretty simple and could be a fall back if your new idea doesn't work out.
if you see there is a plate with a nut welded onto it, you bolt that to the side and there is a screw you can adjust that hits the sleeve when you want it to, keeping it from going in reverse till you lift the sleeve. as you can see that bracket with the screw is an inch or so above wherever you mount it, so there would be space.
I will try and make some hybrid of the 2 shifters, I am sure once its in my hands it wont be that hard. instead of turning down the shaft maybe I could just make the hole in the sleeve larger and then use the sleeve on the 240 shifter as is. Ill let you guys know the v160 shifter is a few weeks out.
If the way Ali has it right now has really tight shifting 1-6, and Reverse really does require you to go way over, meaning the chances of accidentally going into reverse on a 5 to 6 are pretty much nil, I'd be willing to just forgo the lockout. And really how often are you slamming a 5-6 shift extremely fast? I can see slamming 1-4 a lot while doing some spirited driving, but 6th, me personally not to concerned. So Ali once you sort of finalize your non-lockout setup, I might have to give that a shot some day.
I dont mind cutting and welding if the shift geometry will be fine in the end, but I wont sacrifice shift feel. I like the sleeve the v160 uses cause the plate at the bottom has an adjustment on it, the stock rx8 and 350z do not have adjustments so if you change the geometry enough it probably wouln't lock you out of 6th anymore.
Yeah, that is true.
I had a 2002 Maxima 6-speed for many years and even without the lockout it would have been very obvious going into reverse versus 6th. I am fine without the lockout as well..this has got me thinking about how to add it since I don't have anything in my car currently anyway, lol.
I had a 2002 Maxima 6-speed for many years and even without the lockout it would have been very obvious going into reverse versus 6th. I am fine without the lockout as well..this has got me thinking about how to add it since I don't have anything in my car currently anyway, lol.
its already shifting good with the 240 setup, just needs a little more finess and the reverse lockout. IF I can come up with a way to make it even shorter that would be nice as well but out of ideas on that front.
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05-25-15, 03:14 PM
#539
this swap sucks! Wished I would have saved my money and just went with a V160 swap. The trans is almost in but not quite. there is no room in the tunnel even after you beat the crap out of it. Had to loosen the motor mount nuts ( I have solid motor mounts ) and jack the front of the engine up just to even get the trans started. once this clutch goes I will be doing the V160 swap.