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Old 11-01-09, 05:11 AM   #16
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im using the centerforce dual friction PP and clutch disk aswell with the stock flywheel...
+2 for centerforce dual friction!!
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Old 11-01-09, 06:16 AM   #17
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I've had a custom Kevlar Kevlar clutch plate on my w58 for a couple of years. It's successfully held ~420whp and 408wt, though I do not beat on this car. Right now it is the weak link in the most recent upgrade that bumped my number up to those in current sig.

There is no chance in hell that a stock plate handles that power.
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it all depends on how you drive your car with the W58, ive been drifting on my w58 for 2 years with about 380hp and 383 torque and its been just fine. on the steets i drive like a woman so that probably helps. you need to learn how to drive and your w58 will be just fine.
Iv realized that, im not a 16 year old snot nosed kit who goes ***** to the wall every chance i get. I am a very mature driver. I follow posted speed limits, but very rarely...like maybe a couple of Saturdays a month...i will hit the freeways for some runs from a 60 roll. I DO NOT EVER race from a dig or pop the clutch at high rpms, i dont even do burnouts for that matter...i dont like it, i have no traction, and i hate the clutch burning smell, and i know that the above mention activities is what kills trannies.
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Old 09-08-13, 07:00 PM   #18
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4 years later how did that clutch setup on that w58. I'm 38 with a 1.5 jzgte setup and my w58 sucks ***
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Old 06-16-14, 03:32 AM   #19
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hello
Can i use 2jzgte flywheel with w58 clutch system or i have go r154 clutch system..
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Old 06-16-14, 08:34 AM   #20
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Can i use 2jzgte flywheel with w58 clutch system or i have go r154 clutch system..
If you are using w58 it is best to use stock flywheel from 2jzge...Make sure to get it resurfaced and add a beefy clutch and you should be good to go...I am using Competition Clutch Stage 4 on mine and it is holding the power on a single at 12 psi..Like others have said W58 will last as long as you dont beat it...remember the weakest point in W58 is 3rd and 5th gear

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Old 06-16-14, 11:10 AM   #21
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If you are using w58 it is best to use stock flywheel from 2jzge...Make sure to get it resurfaced addadd a beefy clutch and you should be good to go...I am using Competition Clutch Stage 4 on mine and it is holding the power on a single at 12 psi..Like others have said W58 will last as long as you dont beat it...remember the weakest point in W58 is 3rd and 5th gear
what is the difference between 2jzge and 2jzgte flywheel? do i have to do any mod to fit the 2jzge flywheel in 2jzgte vvti engine..
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Old 06-16-14, 03:15 PM   #22
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Shock from immediate torque is what weakens a W58 over time. It wasn't designed for high horsepower or the sudden surge in torque from a boosted engine. The only boosted engine Toyota ever paired it with was the 200hp 1G-GTE 2.0L straight six with significantly less torque than a 1JZ or 2JZGTE.

92-97 SC400's take well to W58's. Generally boosted JZ's put the transmission into the "borrowed time" category. Some have better luck than others but some people have blown W58's with their turbocharged engines during regular driving. It's not a question of "if" but "when" if you're using one with a turbocharged JZ. A 250-260hp 1UZ... different story.

SC300bd-- the 2JZ-GE M/T flywheel is designed for the W58 5-speed transmission. The 2JZGTE M/T flywheel is a dual-mass unit designed specifically for the V160 6-speed transmission. Then there is the 1JZ-GTE M/T flywheel which is designed exclusively for R154 transmissions. You can't interchange any of these flywheels with a transmission they weren't designed for. As far as bolting them up to the block... all of them bolt up to any JZ series block just the same. There are specific bolts for each flywheel type.
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You will need the w58 flywheel (2JZ-GE) and a w58 clutch. Use new toyota 2JZGE flywheel bolts. They have a special loctite already on them so they don't loosen themselves over time.
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if your gonna run a w58 with boost u need to make something else your weakest link, i run 255s on my car because i rather the tires give than the w58. i read on supraforums about a guy going from 255 to 295 and breaking his tranny one week later
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if your gonna run a w58 with boost u need to make something else your weakest link, i run 255s on my car because i rather the tires give than the w58. i read on supraforums about a guy going from 255 to 295 and breaking his tranny one week later
x2 I have 245 in rear and I would rather have the tires spin than have to much grip and break tranny....

I am still suprised it is not as easy I thought it would be to get the rears to break loose..
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You will need the w58 flywheel (2JZ-GE) and a w58 clutch. Use new toyota 2JZGE flywheel bolts. They have a special loctite already on them so they don't loosen themselves over time.
I am planing to buy JUN 2jzge Flywheel and clutch Master Stage3 clutch of 2jzge. so can you tell stage 3 clutch of 2jzge can handle the trouge and power of 2JZGTE or I should go higher stage..
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