2jz-gte + w58...clutch component concerns... - Page 2 - ClubLexus - Lexus Forum Discussion


Performance & Maintenance Engine, forced induction, intakes, exhausts, torque converters, transmissions, etc.

2jz-gte + w58...clutch component concerns...

Reply
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-01-09, 05:11 AM   #16
94_soarer
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (8)
 
94_soarer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: FL
Posts: 2,099
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

im using the centerforce dual friction PP and clutch disk aswell with the stock flywheel...
+2 for centerforce dual friction!!
94_soarer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-09, 06:16 AM   #17
jdmJZA70
Pole Position
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
jdmJZA70's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 237
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SCoupe View Post
I've had a custom Kevlar Kevlar clutch plate on my w58 for a couple of years. It's successfully held ~420whp and 408wt, though I do not beat on this car. Right now it is the weak link in the most recent upgrade that bumped my number up to those in current sig.

There is no chance in hell that a stock plate handles that power.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggu View Post
it all depends on how you drive your car with the W58, ive been drifting on my w58 for 2 years with about 380hp and 383 torque and its been just fine. on the steets i drive like a woman so that probably helps. you need to learn how to drive and your w58 will be just fine.
Iv realized that, im not a 16 year old snot nosed kit who goes ***** to the wall every chance i get. I am a very mature driver. I follow posted speed limits, but very rarely...like maybe a couple of Saturdays a month...i will hit the freeways for some runs from a 60 roll. I DO NOT EVER race from a dig or pop the clutch at high rpms, i dont even do burnouts for that matter...i dont like it, i have no traction, and i hate the clutch burning smell, and i know that the above mention activities is what kills trannies.
jdmJZA70 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-13, 07:00 PM   #18
Cooldaddy
Driver School Candidate
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: NC
Posts: 37
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

4 years later how did that clutch setup on that w58. I'm 38 with a 1.5 jzgte setup and my w58 sucks ***
Cooldaddy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-14, 03:32 AM   #19
sc300bd
Driver School Candidate
 
sc300bd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Dhaka
Posts: 8
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

hello
Can i use 2jzgte flywheel with w58 clutch system or i have go r154 clutch system..
sc300bd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-14, 08:34 AM   #20
CatManD3W
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (18)
 
CatManD3W's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: SteelCity
Posts: 2,197
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sc300bd View Post
hello
Can i use 2jzgte flywheel with w58 clutch system or i have go r154 clutch system..
If you are using w58 it is best to use stock flywheel from 2jzge...Make sure to get it resurfaced and add a beefy clutch and you should be good to go...I am using Competition Clutch Stage 4 on mine and it is holding the power on a single at 12 psi..Like others have said W58 will last as long as you dont beat it...remember the weakest point in W58 is 3rd and 5th gear

Last edited by CatManD3W; 06-16-14 at 08:33 PM.
CatManD3W is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-14, 11:10 AM   #21
sc300bd
Driver School Candidate
 
sc300bd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Dhaka
Posts: 8
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CatManD3W View Post
If you are using w58 it is best to use stock flywheel from 2jzge...Make sure to get it resurfaced addadd a beefy clutch and you should be good to go...I am using Competition Clutch Stage 4 on mine and it is holding the power on a single at 12 psi..Like others have said W58 will last as long as you dont beat it...remember the weakest point in W58 is 3rd and 5th gear
what is the difference between 2jzge and 2jzgte flywheel? do i have to do any mod to fit the 2jzge flywheel in 2jzgte vvti engine..
sc300bd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-14, 03:15 PM   #22
KahnBB6
Moderator
iTrader: (5)
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: California
Posts: 3,959
Thanked 50 Times in 44 Posts
Default

Shock from immediate torque is what weakens a W58 over time. It wasn't designed for high horsepower or the sudden surge in torque from a boosted engine. The only boosted engine Toyota ever paired it with was the 200hp 1G-GTE 2.0L straight six with significantly less torque than a 1JZ or 2JZGTE.

92-97 SC400's take well to W58's. Generally boosted JZ's put the transmission into the "borrowed time" category. Some have better luck than others but some people have blown W58's with their turbocharged engines during regular driving. It's not a question of "if" but "when" if you're using one with a turbocharged JZ. A 250-260hp 1UZ... different story.

SC300bd-- the 2JZ-GE M/T flywheel is designed for the W58 5-speed transmission. The 2JZGTE M/T flywheel is a dual-mass unit designed specifically for the V160 6-speed transmission. Then there is the 1JZ-GTE M/T flywheel which is designed exclusively for R154 transmissions. You can't interchange any of these flywheels with a transmission they weren't designed for. As far as bolting them up to the block... all of them bolt up to any JZ series block just the same. There are specific bolts for each flywheel type.
KahnBB6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-14, 08:46 PM   #23
1997Soarer
Lead Lap
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: IL
Posts: 485
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Default

You will need the w58 flywheel (2JZ-GE) and a w58 clutch. Use new toyota 2JZGE flywheel bolts. They have a special loctite already on them so they don't loosen themselves over time.
1997Soarer is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-14, 02:00 AM   #24
carsmypnis
Driver
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: florida
Posts: 105
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

if your gonna run a w58 with boost u need to make something else your weakest link, i run 255s on my car because i rather the tires give than the w58. i read on supraforums about a guy going from 255 to 295 and breaking his tranny one week later
carsmypnis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-14, 11:34 AM   #25
CatManD3W
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (18)
 
CatManD3W's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: SteelCity
Posts: 2,197
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by carsmypnis View Post
if your gonna run a w58 with boost u need to make something else your weakest link, i run 255s on my car because i rather the tires give than the w58. i read on supraforums about a guy going from 255 to 295 and breaking his tranny one week later
x2 I have 245 in rear and I would rather have the tires spin than have to much grip and break tranny....

I am still suprised it is not as easy I thought it would be to get the rears to break loose..
CatManD3W is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-14, 09:20 AM   #26
sc300bd
Driver School Candidate
 
sc300bd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Dhaka
Posts: 8
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1997Soarer View Post
You will need the w58 flywheel (2JZ-GE) and a w58 clutch. Use new toyota 2JZGE flywheel bolts. They have a special loctite already on them so they don't loosen themselves over time.
I am planing to buy JUN 2jzge Flywheel and clutch Master Stage3 clutch of 2jzge. so can you tell stage 3 clutch of 2jzge can handle the trouge and power of 2JZGTE or I should go higher stage..
sc300bd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-17, 02:05 PM   #27
Scrappi88
Driver School Candidate
 
Scrappi88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Fl
Posts: 3
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdmJZA70 View Post
Well I obliterated my stock aristo tranny a while back so im in the process of going 5 speed with a stock w58 trans a buddy gave me. My motor is basically BPU at around 17-18 psi (i did the wastgate bleeder T mod) in TTC mode.

I have a stock clutch right now but i do not know if it can handle it. My buddy also gave me some sort of aftermaker pressure plate that is red (maybe south bend?) but i have no clue what brand it is. Would that aftermarket pressure plate mated with a stock disk suffice the power im putting down (around 400 rwhp). Does anyone know what the limit is for the stock clutch? I really would like to know for sure cz i have a new one sitting around and ill just use that if it will hold the power.

My concerns are that this vehicle is my daily and i drive alot so i dont want anything rash or hard pedal feel wise. I can live with a little stiffer pedal but nothing too extreme. I do, although, drive "sprited" so i want to be able to put the power down and not worry about blowing **** up.

Also im looking into lightweight flywheels but im just worried that it may make alot of noise or chatter. Anybody have experiance with this? Help make my decision, i need to get back in my Lexo, get it on the road, and get the F out of my sisters Honda Prelude (yuck, stupid hondas)...

-Zeeshaun
hey man I have a 95 sc300 with the same trans if u could pm me and let me know what ECU u r running I'm having trouble starting mine for the 1st time
Scrappi88 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
GA 1997 SC300 Original 5 speed ( 1 of 120 ) gerrb Lexus Vehicles Classifieds 4 10-01-17 12:00 PM
Looking to do a r154 or w58 manual swap? look in here, dont make a thread. Cleanshots Performance & Maintenance 153 08-20-17 10:47 AM
Sc400 manual swap from hell! Clear Performance & Maintenance 0 05-20-16 11:20 PM
High Clamping Clutch Question (w58) Halon Performance & Maintenance 7 05-11-16 10:49 AM
SC400 W58 swap - SC300 5 speed parts car? emLEX Performance & Maintenance 1 04-03-16 10:58 PM


Tags
15 , 2jzgte , fit , gears , honda , plate , power , ppg , pressure , psi , putting , stock , turbo , vvti , w58

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:06 PM.


Copyright © 2000-2017 Internet Brands, Inc. All Rights Reserved
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: