LS460 Oil consumption issue
#61
No I have to stick with Toyota 0W-20.
I will agree that an argument can be made for thicker oil if the quality of the thinner oil is not up to the task to provide the right viscosity. There are many other factors within oil like additives and boundary lubrication to prevent wear. You can also find xw-30 oils that may not be sufficient either.
The most important thing is to choose the correct viscosity for the tolerances and the operating condition. Using thicker oil is a bandied and not a solution.
I will agree that an argument can be made for thicker oil if the quality of the thinner oil is not up to the task to provide the right viscosity. There are many other factors within oil like additives and boundary lubrication to prevent wear. You can also find xw-30 oils that may not be sufficient either.
The most important thing is to choose the correct viscosity for the tolerances and the operating condition. Using thicker oil is a bandied and not a solution.
#62
Instructor
My car doesn't burn any oil. If it did I would replace it. Do you want to go over and argue your 5w20 point in all sites?
http://us.lexusownersclub.com/forums...il-do-you-use/
http://us.lexusownersclub.com/forums...il-do-you-use/
Last edited by superdenso; 09-08-15 at 12:29 PM.
#63
My car doesn't burn any oil. If it did I would replace it. Do you want to go over and argue your 5w20 point in all sites?
http://us.lexusownersclub.com/forums...il-do-you-use/
http://us.lexusownersclub.com/forums...il-do-you-use/
The burden is not on me it's on you to make your point.
I see, so your car doesn't burn any oil like the majority of us who use 20wt oil.
Last edited by Devh; 09-08-15 at 01:33 PM.
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oil consumption
My car doesn't burn any oil. If it did I would replace it. Do you want to go over and argue your 5w20 point in all sites?
http://us.lexusownersclub.com/forums...il-do-you-use/
http://us.lexusownersclub.com/forums...il-do-you-use/
i beleive that the oil consumption problem and the valve problem is a gs 300 issue
#66
Instructor
Was 5w20 chosen for C.A.F.E?
I don't need to. I'm a member of CL where 20wt oil is the norm in the absence of oil consumption issues. In the absence of wear validated by oil analysis. Validated by manufactures specifications and extensive testing by the industry.
The burden is not on me it's on you to make your point.
I see, so your car doesn't burn any oil like the majority of us who use 20wt oil.
The burden is not on me it's on you to make your point.
I see, so your car doesn't burn any oil like the majority of us who use 20wt oil.
Thread titled: Thinking about giving up on my LS by RudyRC51
I am currently on Mobil 1 high mileage 5-20, but since I have been noticing the oil consumption issues, I plan to thicken it to 10-40 the next time around. My motor has been a champ, except for going through a change almost every two months.
Last edited by superdenso; 09-08-15 at 09:40 PM.
#67
The new 2016 requirements are headed for 0W-16 oils and those engines will be built to handle that oil as well but your advice would be for those owners to use 30wt because that is all you know, that and informal fast and furious racetrack challenges to prove your point.
Last edited by Devh; 09-08-15 at 10:02 PM.
#68
Thread titled: Thinking about giving up on my LS by RudyRC51
I am currently on Mobil 1 high mileage 5-20, but since I have been noticing the oil consumption issues, I plan to thicken it to 10-40 the next time around. My motor has been a champ, except for going through a change almost every two months.
Last edited by Devh; 09-08-15 at 10:03 PM.
#69
#70
Instructor
Is this club Lexus or club Devh? Racing, Dino's, and track testing made the cars we drive today. So you can say Fast and Furious all day and nite but sanctioned racing is the proving ground. Sorry, that's just how that is. Switching after 30k may be too late. However, I am flattered that you would take the time to find all my posts If you have a grocery getter "Accord" I say have at the 5w20. But if you intend to pull an LS with the Ridgeline and make demands on that vtec...I would suggest a different choice. And I would tell you to change your Trans fluid every 20k.
#71
Lexus Fanatic
I still have yet to see any post of factual value from you on this subject superdenso...you post a lot of ascerbic, rude jabs at people and vaguely restate your position within riddles...but have offered no factual evidence or experience that supports your point about widespread consumption issues (I still can't tell if your position is that the LS460 consumes oil period, or if 0W20 oil causes a consumption issue) short of your extremely specious argument about page views on this thread and how that translates into the percentage of LS460 owners with this issue (again, at least 15 more page views today from the three of us, and none of us have oil consumption issues).
Devh's contribution to CL is well documented, especially on these topics as well as others. Until you yourself have contributed something of value to CL I think you should refrain from casting aspersions on others.
Devh's contribution to CL is well documented, especially on these topics as well as others. Until you yourself have contributed something of value to CL I think you should refrain from casting aspersions on others.
#72
Instructor
SW15LS: I would like to take this time out to apologize for hurting your feelings. I know you're passionate about the topic. You and Devh can keep 5w20 in your cars...I'm not asking you to change Send this guy a message and ask him what he thinks about 5w20.
Thread titled: Thinking about giving up on my LS by RudyRC51
I am currently on Mobil 1 high mileage 5-20, but since I have been noticing the oil consumption issues, I plan to thicken it to 10-40 the next time around. My motor has been a champ, except for going through a change almost every two months.
Thread titled: Thinking about giving up on my LS by RudyRC51
I am currently on Mobil 1 high mileage 5-20, but since I have been noticing the oil consumption issues, I plan to thicken it to 10-40 the next time around. My motor has been a champ, except for going through a change almost every two months.
Last edited by superdenso; 09-09-15 at 07:54 AM.
#73
Instructor
You guys say one thing on this thread, and then something else on another. Are you guys serious with this? Is someone else hacking your accounts? Your experiences and the oil test data are not congruent.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...-change-9.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...-change-9.html
#74
I feel a bit embarrassed and I'm sure others feel a bit embarrassed for me having to defend my position when it is more then clear that this is a one sided conversation that brings no value to the discussion. We were having a discussion and superdenso's first post on this thread was to target me and call me out, so I had to defend my position and from there it escalated.
I think I'm done now as I haven't proven anything over what was already obvious.
I think I'm done now as I haven't proven anything over what was already obvious.
#75
Lexus Fanatic
I feel a bit embarrassed and I'm sure others feel a bit embarrassed for me having to defend my position when it is more then clear that this is a one sided conversation that brings no value to the discussion. We were having a discussion and superdenso's first post on this thread was to target me and call me out, so I had to defend my position and from there it escalated.
I think I'm done now as I haven't proven anything over what was already obvious.
I think I'm done now as I haven't proven anything over what was already obvious.
Originally Posted by superdenso
SW15LS: I would like to take this time out to apologize for hurting your feelings. I know you're passionate about the topic. You and Devh can keep 5w20 in your cars...I'm not asking you to change Send this guy a message and ask him what he thinks about 5w20.
And FYI...I will continue to run 0W20 oil, because thats whats recommended by Lexus for my LS460.