Anyone "run" with a new ECU-tuned Audi S4?
#31
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2012
Location: ca
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My response was with regard to this statement:
"I think you need to realize in ANY race whether on the track or on the street, it's always the driver that determines the faster car!!!! "
It's true for "like" cars of comparable HP/TQ, but not true in ANY race...
That's all I was suggesting.
Quad
"I think you need to realize in ANY race whether on the track or on the street, it's always the driver that determines the faster car!!!! "
It's true for "like" cars of comparable HP/TQ, but not true in ANY race...
That's all I was suggesting.
Quad
#32
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2012
Location: ca
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
#33
Lead Lap
iTrader: (9)
Your GTO comparo is kind of unfair since it's a v8 with 550 (almost 50 more than a C63)
C63 comes 450hp or 480 with factory tune, so that would be 100hp more over stock C63 and 70hp with factory tune.
At 416hp it's got the lowest hp output of it's class. The M3, C63 and CTSV all have more power.
M3 is 414hp/290tq and ISF 416hp/374tq that makes M3 with the lowest hp/tq numbers in this class, but it still manages to be class leader in everything but 1/4 times.
C63 comes 450hp or 480 with factory tune, so that would be 100hp more over stock C63 and 70hp with factory tune.
At 416hp it's got the lowest hp output of it's class. The M3, C63 and CTSV all have more power.
M3 is 414hp/290tq and ISF 416hp/374tq that makes M3 with the lowest hp/tq numbers in this class, but it still manages to be class leader in everything but 1/4 times.
#34
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (5)
Too much reading to realize that most of the comments are based on magazines, friends of friends, etc. How many of you guys have driven all these cars and can make an unbiased review?
M3 drives beautiful, it's as fast as an ISF as long as you keep shifting at redline, otherwise it feels like you dropped 4 cylinders somewhere on the road.
S4 (actually I've driven an S5) is a very nice car, slow and heavy but NICE.
C63: brutal, monster engine for a C-Class chassis. Other than the few cosmetic additions, it can pass as a C250.
CTS-V is in a different class, it should be compared to a 5-Series, E-Class, or GS series. Refined american muscle car, that means improved cheap interior (compared to all other cars on this thread) with a huge displacement engine.
ISF... I'm on my second one!
M3 drives beautiful, it's as fast as an ISF as long as you keep shifting at redline, otherwise it feels like you dropped 4 cylinders somewhere on the road.
S4 (actually I've driven an S5) is a very nice car, slow and heavy but NICE.
C63: brutal, monster engine for a C-Class chassis. Other than the few cosmetic additions, it can pass as a C250.
CTS-V is in a different class, it should be compared to a 5-Series, E-Class, or GS series. Refined american muscle car, that means improved cheap interior (compared to all other cars on this thread) with a huge displacement engine.
ISF... I'm on my second one!
#35
Speaking about the new IS-F, when is it expected to see NA? Any word at all on it? I love the new design, and the front a lot more than the new "F" series that seem to be rolling out, but don't want to get the current version, if the new one will be world's different/better...
Quad
Quad
The recent independent 3rd party survey that I completed for Lexus on the F smacked of a high degree of caution in radically altering the car.
I'm sure that it will attract the typical Lexus F buyer seeking a balance of super-car like performance and a Lexus-branded cockpit with creature comforts...and a higher price tag.
#36
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (2)
Too much reading to realize that most of the comments are based on magazines, friends of friends, etc. How many of you guys have driven all these cars and can make an unbiased review?
M3 drives beautiful, it's as fast as an ISF as long as you keep shifting at redline, otherwise it feels like you dropped 4 cylinders somewhere on the road.
S4 (actually I've driven an S5) is a very nice car, slow and heavy but NICE.
C63: brutal, monster engine for a C-Class chassis. Other than the few cosmetic additions, it can pass as a C250.
CTS-V is in a different class, it should be compared to a 5-Series, E-Class, or GS series. Refined american muscle car, that means improved cheap interior (compared to all other cars on this thread) with a huge displacement engine.
ISF... I'm on my second one!
M3 drives beautiful, it's as fast as an ISF as long as you keep shifting at redline, otherwise it feels like you dropped 4 cylinders somewhere on the road.
S4 (actually I've driven an S5) is a very nice car, slow and heavy but NICE.
C63: brutal, monster engine for a C-Class chassis. Other than the few cosmetic additions, it can pass as a C250.
CTS-V is in a different class, it should be compared to a 5-Series, E-Class, or GS series. Refined american muscle car, that means improved cheap interior (compared to all other cars on this thread) with a huge displacement engine.
ISF... I'm on my second one!
I've driven all of those plenty of times - if I had to grab the key to one car the most often, it would be the M3 - best balance IMO.
C63 is like a muscle car drag racer in disguise, awesome power, so-so looks and always thirsty for gas. I swore I filled that thing up like 5 times going to LA! haha
#37
Driver School Candidate
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Here is an update for anyone that interested.
In the video is the Revo technik chipped B8 S4 vs the newest RS4 (which I assume faster than the ISF ?)
Enjoy!!!
In the video is the Revo technik chipped B8 S4 vs the newest RS4 (which I assume faster than the ISF ?)
Enjoy!!!
#38
Lexus Test Driver
iTrader: (6)
Here is an update for anyone that interested.
In the video is the Revo technik chipped B8 S4 vs the newest RS4 (which I assume faster than the ISF ?)
Enjoy!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KfMY96v_Gc
In the video is the Revo technik chipped B8 S4 vs the newest RS4 (which I assume faster than the ISF ?)
Enjoy!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KfMY96v_Gc
#39
Driver School Candidate
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The RS4 is slower than the F. See the videos below and cry:
IS F v RS4 - YouTube
Lexus ISF Vs Audi RS4 Truth Revealed.3gp - YouTube
IS F v RS4 - YouTube
Lexus ISF Vs Audi RS4 Truth Revealed.3gp - YouTube
Anyone run their IS-F against an RS5 yet? That would be the closest thing to a B8 RS4 that we have access to in the US.
#41
Instructor
Toothdoc and I ran last fall at the track with a tune and intake only B8 S4 and he was running 12.5-.7! I believe a stasis or Apr tune. Quick with launch control cutting high 1.8 60' times. Mph was lowaround 107-09 though.
#42
Someone in my neighborhood just got a B8 S4 and they were messing with me a bit. It wasn't the time or place to race so I just figured the guy was trolling. So I get home and see what the new S4 is about and I see this video.
Decently fast but nothing special to about 70mph, but then the acceleration drops off a cliff as its crawls to 80-90-100+. I would absolutely murder one of these on a freeway in stock form. It would take a major tune and full bolt-ons to make up for its lack of decent rolling acceleration. Why was that guy messing with me?
Decently fast but nothing special to about 70mph, but then the acceleration drops off a cliff as its crawls to 80-90-100+. I would absolutely murder one of these on a freeway in stock form. It would take a major tune and full bolt-ons to make up for its lack of decent rolling acceleration. Why was that guy messing with me?
#44
Moderator
iTrader: (3)
I drove a B8 S4 during my shopping phase before I got my ISF. Beautiful interior and solid car, but not up to par with an ISF on performance. Many people have said it's more of a competitor to the 335i, and I'd agree. Tuned S4s go about as fast as tuned 335is. The right combo of tune and bolt ons can make it faster than a stock ISF, but out of the box, it's a notch below the ISF.
Even though it is slower, the S5 is one of my favorite cars under $65k out there though.
Even though it is slower, the S5 is one of my favorite cars under $65k out there though.