Air Intakes, why not Plastic
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Air Intakes, why not Plastic
...instead of Aluminum which is what everybody uses(k&n, injen, ect). Remember the intake Ice Man, it was made of thick thermoplastic. Oem intakes are made out of plastic, why use something that'll heat up more than oem?
I'd love to see an intake made of this plastic. The Takeda would be sweet with this material
I'd love to see an intake made of this plastic. The Takeda would be sweet with this material
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Just looking at the Joe Z design a mold can't be that much and after the mold was done I'd be surprised over time if Joe Z didn't see a reduction in cost using plastic vs using aluminum. I'd buy the first Joe z plastic and it wouldn't look like the I code silicon crap.
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Yeah...I wrapped mine in the thermotec cool tape I believe is the name. Its a fiberglass insulated wrap with the woven material and it has the shiney silver outer appearance. It looked like crap no matter how clean the wrap was and the intake got so hot the actual wrap adhesive would fail and fall off...so zip ties had to be installed to hold it on. I would think a thick plastic joe Z or Cf joe Z would be the key. I think heat would still travel through it no matter what if it was any metal.
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Yeah...I wrapped mine in the thermotec cool tape I believe is the name. Its a fiberglass insulated wrap with the woven material and it has the shiney silver outer appearance. It looked like crap no matter how clean the wrap was and the intake got so hot the actual wrap adhesive would fail and fall off...so zip ties had to be installed to hold it on. I would think a thick plastic joe Z or Cf joe Z would be the key. I think heat would still travel through it no matter what if it was any metal.
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Buy some PVC drain pipe and make your self a plastic intake.
The heat soak isn't all that great. My intake temperature runs about 5* above ambient when moving. Since you have a laminar flow pattern only the air at the outside edge soaks up the heat.
The heat soak isn't all that great. My intake temperature runs about 5* above ambient when moving. Since you have a laminar flow pattern only the air at the outside edge soaks up the heat.
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I can attest silicone vs metal. When car is hot, you can't grab the joez, it's pretty hot and youll get burned. Same with takeda. Icode is warm to touch, but you can grab it while car is hot and running. The temp difference between metals and silicone is quite dramatic. I'm not sure how that equates to air temps Internally.
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^^ Not much at all....
The air flowing inside the intake pipe is there less than a blink of an eye...
You can burn your hands all day long touching stuff inside the intake compartment.
Here is the hint: Don't touch anything
Already did the cost analysis for a "plastic/silicone intake".. There were no beneficial gains besides a major increase in price.
Again, I can't speak for other brands, but the air inside my intake pipe is NEVER there long enough to be heated by the exterior surface temps of the intake material.
At Wide Open Throttle, the intake air flow can suck your arm off.... That's how fast its flowing...
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The KEY that matters the most, is where the air is coming from... !!!
Best Regards,
Joe Z
The air flowing inside the intake pipe is there less than a blink of an eye...
You can burn your hands all day long touching stuff inside the intake compartment.
Here is the hint: Don't touch anything
Already did the cost analysis for a "plastic/silicone intake".. There were no beneficial gains besides a major increase in price.
Again, I can't speak for other brands, but the air inside my intake pipe is NEVER there long enough to be heated by the exterior surface temps of the intake material.
At Wide Open Throttle, the intake air flow can suck your arm off.... That's how fast its flowing...
&
The KEY that matters the most, is where the air is coming from... !!!
Best Regards,
Joe Z
Last edited by Joe Z; 09-20-11 at 11:29 AM. Reason: added "WOT"
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Already did the cost analysis for a "plastic/silicone intake".. There were no beneficial gains besides a major increase in price.
Again, I can't speak for other brands, but the air inside my intake pipe is NEVER there long enough to be heated by the exterior surface temps of the intake material.
Joe Z
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Last edited by lobuxracer; 09-19-11 at 04:04 PM.