Tire/Radial Pull
#1
Tire/Radial Pull
Thought I would share my story in the event this happens to someone else.
I Recently installed h&r 15 mm spacers and continental dw's in 245/275 combo.
After leaving the tire place I noticed a slightly uneasy feeling at highway speed. Almost as if the car was being hit with the strong crosswind. Under light acceleration the car would pull right, on decell it would wander left, it would drive perfectly straight when coasting. Overall it felt less stable than before the tires and spacers.
So:
1 - I got an alignment and it got a little better but the issue persisted.
2 - I thought the alignment specs I had suggested (0 toe up front) to reduce tire wear might be the reason it was not perfect so...
3 - I got a second alignment and removed the wheel spacers. Problem again seemed better ,but not fixed
4 - I thought the squish front LCA bushing might be to blame so I got the Figs bushing and another (my 3rd) alignment. The problem remains.
5 - Finally, today I unbolted and swapped the rear wheels and now the pulling has swapped sides. It pulls left on acceleration and right on deceleration. This sounds like it is tire related, specifically something called tire pull.
Has anyone had this experience before? I purchased the tires at tire rack, I plan on giving them a call tomorrow. Not sure how to determine which rear tire is wonky..
I Recently installed h&r 15 mm spacers and continental dw's in 245/275 combo.
After leaving the tire place I noticed a slightly uneasy feeling at highway speed. Almost as if the car was being hit with the strong crosswind. Under light acceleration the car would pull right, on decell it would wander left, it would drive perfectly straight when coasting. Overall it felt less stable than before the tires and spacers.
So:
1 - I got an alignment and it got a little better but the issue persisted.
2 - I thought the alignment specs I had suggested (0 toe up front) to reduce tire wear might be the reason it was not perfect so...
3 - I got a second alignment and removed the wheel spacers. Problem again seemed better ,but not fixed
4 - I thought the squish front LCA bushing might be to blame so I got the Figs bushing and another (my 3rd) alignment. The problem remains.
5 - Finally, today I unbolted and swapped the rear wheels and now the pulling has swapped sides. It pulls left on acceleration and right on deceleration. This sounds like it is tire related, specifically something called tire pull.
Has anyone had this experience before? I purchased the tires at tire rack, I plan on giving them a call tomorrow. Not sure how to determine which rear tire is wonky..
#2
Lexus Test Driver
I would have to go with issues in tires. I used to have Continent ExtremeContact DW and the tires were utter garbage. They worked fine initially, but the car started to pull in one direction, developed uneven wear on the tire and also cupping issue (resulting in vibrations at 75 - 80 mph) and they were very loud and made howling noises on the freeway.
The tires were toast after just 15,000 KM (even though, the 'DW' engraved lettering that are supposed to be the wear indicator on the tread were still visible, but the tires were completely worn out in the middle and inner side).
I have had Michelin Pilot Super Sport for 2 seasons now and no issues whatsoever. No pulling, no noise and no uneven wear.
The tires were toast after just 15,000 KM (even though, the 'DW' engraved lettering that are supposed to be the wear indicator on the tread were still visible, but the tires were completely worn out in the middle and inner side).
I have had Michelin Pilot Super Sport for 2 seasons now and no issues whatsoever. No pulling, no noise and no uneven wear.
#3
Lexus Fanatic
I had the PSS and all was well. Got a new set and had pulling to the right. Got an alignment , still pulls. Had them align the car with me in the car , still pulled. Went out with the tech and showed him. He came back to the shop and told me to turn the wheel all the way to the right as he adjusted something then had me turn the wheel all the way to the left and adjusted something. The car immediately felt much better but still pulls slightly to the right. What I noticed was my steering wheel was turned to the right. I felt that with the natural slop of most roads to the right was causing it. They told me they adjusted the wheel position and that helped. I just ended it adjusted just a hair more. When I let go of the wheel I can see my right paddle slightly lower than the left paddle. Its annoying.
#6
Lexus Fanatic
I see. This stuff is annoying , especially when they keep telling you all is well. Im going to try another dealership. Its a drive, but I want people who know what they are doing.
Just had an idle and AC issue that these people insisted was normal and told me there was nothing they could do and they fixed the issue. I dont know whats worse , a mechanic who cant fix the car , or one who did and doesnt know it
Just had an idle and AC issue that these people insisted was normal and told me there was nothing they could do and they fixed the issue. I dont know whats worse , a mechanic who cant fix the car , or one who did and doesnt know it
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Tire/Radial Pull
Originally Posted by Vervish
Thought I would share my story in the event this happens to someone else.
I Recently installed h&r 15 mm spacers and continental dw's in 245/275 combo.
After leaving the tire place I noticed a slightly uneasy feeling at highway speed. Almost as if the car was being hit with the strong crosswind. Under light acceleration the car would pull right, on decell it would wander left, it would drive perfectly straight when coasting. Overall it felt less stable than before the tires and spacers.
So:
1 - I got an alignment and it got a little better but the issue persisted.
2 - I thought the alignment specs I had suggested (0 toe up front) to reduce tire wear might be the reason it was not perfect so...
3 - I got a second alignment and removed the wheel spacers. Problem again seemed better ,but not fixed
4 - I thought the squish front LCA bushing might be to blame so I got the Figs bushing and another (my 3rd) alignment. The problem remains.
5 - Finally, today I unbolted and swapped the rear wheels and now the pulling has swapped sides. It pulls left on acceleration and right on deceleration. This sounds like it is tire related, specifically something called tire pull.
Has anyone had this experience before? I purchased the tires at tire rack, I plan on giving them a call tomorrow. Not sure how to determine which rear tire is wonky..
I Recently installed h&r 15 mm spacers and continental dw's in 245/275 combo.
After leaving the tire place I noticed a slightly uneasy feeling at highway speed. Almost as if the car was being hit with the strong crosswind. Under light acceleration the car would pull right, on decell it would wander left, it would drive perfectly straight when coasting. Overall it felt less stable than before the tires and spacers.
So:
1 - I got an alignment and it got a little better but the issue persisted.
2 - I thought the alignment specs I had suggested (0 toe up front) to reduce tire wear might be the reason it was not perfect so...
3 - I got a second alignment and removed the wheel spacers. Problem again seemed better ,but not fixed
4 - I thought the squish front LCA bushing might be to blame so I got the Figs bushing and another (my 3rd) alignment. The problem remains.
5 - Finally, today I unbolted and swapped the rear wheels and now the pulling has swapped sides. It pulls left on acceleration and right on deceleration. This sounds like it is tire related, specifically something called tire pull.
Has anyone had this experience before? I purchased the tires at tire rack, I plan on giving them a call tomorrow. Not sure how to determine which rear tire is wonky..
#9
Thanks man - stock wheels and they are properly torqued.
I need to do the rear to front swap to determine which rear tire is messed up. Since it is now pulling to the left under acceleration, I plan on moving the driver's rear to the passenger front. If the pull moves to the right, I know it is the driver's side rear. If there is no change (continues to pull left) then it must be the passenger rear tire.
I need to do the rear to front swap to determine which rear tire is messed up. Since it is now pulling to the left under acceleration, I plan on moving the driver's rear to the passenger front. If the pull moves to the right, I know it is the driver's side rear. If there is no change (continues to pull left) then it must be the passenger rear tire.
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Thanks man - stock wheels and they are properly torqued.
I need to do the rear to front swap to determine which rear tire is messed up. Since it is now pulling to the left under acceleration, I plan on moving the driver's rear to the passenger front. If the pull moves to the right, I know it is the driver's side rear. If there is no change (continues to pull left) then it must be the passenger rear tire.
I need to do the rear to front swap to determine which rear tire is messed up. Since it is now pulling to the left under acceleration, I plan on moving the driver's rear to the passenger front. If the pull moves to the right, I know it is the driver's side rear. If there is no change (continues to pull left) then it must be the passenger rear tire.
#11
Didn't get a chance to measure the tires before I had the passenger rear replaced. But the problem is gone! Tracks perfectly straight under acceleration/deceleration.
Bad news is they snapped one of my H&R extended gstuds.. I will replace it this weekend and reinstall the spacers.
Bad news is they snapped one of my H&R extended gstuds.. I will replace it this weekend and reinstall the spacers.
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I only signed up to this form to submit this post. I just put Continental ExtremeContact DWS tires on my Acura TSX and had radial pull with one tire after 2000 miles. Acura proved it was the tire and so it was replaced free of charge. Got the new tire and .............. i have the same problem but with less pull. The old tire was 11lbs of pull and this tire is 6lbs of pull. All other tires on the car have 0lbs of pull. I wrote the company but doubt I'll see much in a reply since everyone and their grandma has this issue with these tires (try googling - "radial pull" Continental ExtremeContact DWS).
Conclusion = Don't buy these tires.
Conclusion = Don't buy these tires.
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#15
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Mine has been pulling since I got this new set of PSS. I waited 5k to get the alignment done. Considering they only last me 7-8 k miles I think it was too late. Its annoying as hell. Gonna get new tires soon and this time I'm not backing off until they get the car to track straight