IS200t transmission
#1
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Ohio
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
IS200t transmission
Hi Everyone,
I had to sign up to see if anyone can answer me. I've searched long and hard because I'm trying to figure out what the transmission in the IS200t is. I know it's an 8 speed, but I'm just not sure if it's the ZF 8hp or an in house Toyota tranny?
Reason why I ask is I'm interested in this car, but I'm also interested in the M235i. I've only been able to test drive the M235i and I absolutley loved the ZF8 in that. Extremely fast shifts in sport + modes.
Is the M235i and the IS200t transmission the same?
I had to sign up to see if anyone can answer me. I've searched long and hard because I'm trying to figure out what the transmission in the IS200t is. I know it's an 8 speed, but I'm just not sure if it's the ZF 8hp or an in house Toyota tranny?
Reason why I ask is I'm interested in this car, but I'm also interested in the M235i. I've only been able to test drive the M235i and I absolutley loved the ZF8 in that. Extremely fast shifts in sport + modes.
Is the M235i and the IS200t transmission the same?
#3
Lexus Test Driver
Hi Everyone,
I had to sign up to see if anyone can answer me. I've searched long and hard because I'm trying to figure out what the transmission in the IS200t is. I know it's an 8 speed, but I'm just not sure if it's the ZF 8hp or an in house Toyota tranny?
Reason why I ask is I'm interested in this car, but I'm also interested in the M235i. I've only been able to test drive the M235i and I absolutley loved the ZF8 in that. Extremely fast shifts in sport + modes.
Is the M235i and the IS200t transmission the same?
I had to sign up to see if anyone can answer me. I've searched long and hard because I'm trying to figure out what the transmission in the IS200t is. I know it's an 8 speed, but I'm just not sure if it's the ZF 8hp or an in house Toyota tranny?
Reason why I ask is I'm interested in this car, but I'm also interested in the M235i. I've only been able to test drive the M235i and I absolutley loved the ZF8 in that. Extremely fast shifts in sport + modes.
Is the M235i and the IS200t transmission the same?
BTW, I wouldn't compare a M235i to an IS200t. Very different cars with very very different performance abilities. The 200t would be multiple categories down on performance...even the IS350 wouldn't be competitive compared to the 235i.
#5
Lexus Champion
It's an AISIN transmission. It's the AA81E, which is the same one that's in the RWD IS350.
#6
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Ohio
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Its not the same transmission. I believe a couple of the major mags did a comparison test between the 335 and IS350 and both scored very high on tranny with the edge going to BMW.
BTW, I wouldn't compare a M235i to an IS200t. Very different cars with very very different performance abilities. The 200t would be multiple categories down on performance...even the IS350 wouldn't be competitive compared to the 235i.
BTW, I wouldn't compare a M235i to an IS200t. Very different cars with very very different performance abilities. The 200t would be multiple categories down on performance...even the IS350 wouldn't be competitive compared to the 235i.
They cost about the same. Right now I"m leaning towards the M235i. I just love the interior of the Lexus and the turbocharged toyota motors
Last edited by adidas; 10-14-15 at 11:36 AM.
#7
Lexus Test Driver
Ah. Should i be disappointed? How fast are the shifts with these AISIN tranny's?
I believe the 335 used the DCT transmission. The newer M235 while, it's not a DCT has the ZF8HP which is an upgrade to the DCT. Shifts are just a blip away.
They cost about the same. Right now I"m leaning towards the M235i. I just love the interior of the Lexus and the turbocharged toyota motors
I believe the 335 used the DCT transmission. The newer M235 while, it's not a DCT has the ZF8HP which is an upgrade to the DCT. Shifts are just a blip away.
They cost about the same. Right now I"m leaning towards the M235i. I just love the interior of the Lexus and the turbocharged toyota motors
The 200t does 0-60 in about 7 seconds while the 235 does it around 5 seconds. Thats like bus lengths in terms of performance so i'd probably go with the 235 if you don't need the space
Trending Topics
#8
Lexus Champion
Here's the comment from Car and Driver (IS350 vs ATS vs 335):
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...f-sport-page-4
It used to be that, in this class, there was a clear divide in terms of refinement between the BMW inline-six and the engines offered by competitors. That gap is rapidly shrinking. Both the Cadillac’s and the Lexus’s Vs are surprisingly close to the BMW straight-six, but the IS’s is smoother than the ATS’s. And its eight-speed automatic is quicker and more seamless than the Caddy’s six-speed though basically on par with BMW’s transmission.
#9
Aisin is very much an in-house Toyota subsidiary. It was founded by Kiichiro Toyoda, is primarily owned by Toyota, and develops all its transmissions with joint resources from Toyota and for applications in Toyota vehicles. It operates separately from Toyota only so that it can sell its Toyota transmissions to more automakers to increase the scale of economy, but it's still very much in-house to Toyota.
#10
live.love.laugh.lexus
iTrader: (42)
Aisin is very much an in-house Toyota subsidiary. It was founded by Kiichiro Toyoda, is primarily owned by Toyota, and develops all its transmissions with joint resources from Toyota and for applications in Toyota vehicles. It operates separately from Toyota only so that it can sell its Toyota transmissions to more automakers to increase the scale of economy, but it's still very much in-house to Toyota.
#11
The 8spd (Lexus vehicles) is not as smooth or refined as the BMW ZF unit. The BMW's is one of the best though and IMO it's gonna be very hard for anything to exceed it in refinement and performance. However, I enjoy the 8spd in my IS350 and it's world's better than the 6spd automatic available. I haven't tried the new Cadillac transmission but I'd assume it's pretty good as well (ZF made I think, but who-knows tuning). Read all the reviews you want, but driving them yourself is best, the winner may or may not be obvious to you anyway.
I don't think you can go wrong in this category of vehicle (transmission wise), just about all the 7-9 gear systems are pretty darn good. I even like MB transmissions. All are luxury-worthy IMHO.
I don't think you can go wrong in this category of vehicle (transmission wise), just about all the 7-9 gear systems are pretty darn good. I even like MB transmissions. All are luxury-worthy IMHO.
Last edited by ExSrAaron; 10-14-15 at 04:57 PM.
#12
E90/92/93 BMW 335i 6 speed ZF, 335is 7 speed M-DCT
F30 BMW 335i 8 speed ZF
current IS200t, IS350, RC350 Aisin 8 speed direct shift
ISF, RCF same Aisin 8 speed but shifts faster in my personal experience
I driven all above cars before and I think the ZF 8 speed VS the Aisin 8 speed are similar, the Aisin feels a bit more raw to me which I like. 6 speed ZF in the older 335i sucked, the 7 MDCT in the 335is was very quick and fun
correct me if I'm wrong
Also the M235i one is pretty fun, even the 228i isn't bad, I think its the same as M235i, didn't feel very different to me but its not a dual clutch.
F30 BMW 335i 8 speed ZF
current IS200t, IS350, RC350 Aisin 8 speed direct shift
ISF, RCF same Aisin 8 speed but shifts faster in my personal experience
I driven all above cars before and I think the ZF 8 speed VS the Aisin 8 speed are similar, the Aisin feels a bit more raw to me which I like. 6 speed ZF in the older 335i sucked, the 7 MDCT in the 335is was very quick and fun
correct me if I'm wrong
Also the M235i one is pretty fun, even the 228i isn't bad, I think its the same as M235i, didn't feel very different to me but its not a dual clutch.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post