airahcaz

Is it true that the new ES is larger than original LS on all counts, including HP (but not displacement)?

JDR76

Comparable, but the ES is smaller in some measurements, larger in others.

LS Length: 196.7"
ES Length: 192.7"

LS Width: 71.7"
ES Width: 71.1"

LS Height: 55.3"
ES Height: 57.1"

LS Wheelbase: 110.8"
ES Wheelbase: 111"

LS Weight: 3759 lbs
ES Weight: 3549 lbs

LS Trunk: 14.4 cu ft
ES Trunk: 15.2 cu ft

LS Engine: 4.0L V8
ES Engine: 3.5L V6

LS Horsepower: 250 @ 5600 rpm
ES Horsepower: 268 hp @ 6200 rpm

LS Torque: 260 ft-lbs @ 4400 rpm
ES Torque: 248 ft-lbs @ 4700 rpm

jollick

All I have heard is that it has more rear seat legroom them the standard length LS.

JDR76

And some interior dimensions:

LS Front Head Room: 38.6"
ES Front Head Room: 37.5"

LS Front Leg Room: 43.8"
ES Front Leg Room: 41.9"

LS Rear Head Room: 36.8"
ES Rear Head Room: 37.5"

LS Rear Leg Room: 34.3"
ES Rear Leg Room: 40.0"

jollick

LS HP & Torque from the Lexus site:

TYPE 90° V8 4.6 L DISPLACEMENT 386 @ 6,400 RPM (HORSEPOWER@RPM)

TORQUE @ RPM*
367 lb-ft @ 4,100

airahcaz

6" more rear leg room?!
This is the original 1989 LS comps vs 2013 ES?

airahcaz

Jollick, we're comparing to the original LS, not the current.

jollick

LS Specs from their website.

200.0 IN LENGTH*
73.8 IN WIDTH*
58.1 IN HEIGHT
116.9 IN WHEELBASE
TRUNK CAPACITY 18.0 cu ft
CURB WEIGHT 4,233 lb
HEADROOM (FRONT/REAR) 38.0 / 37.9 in
LEGROOM (FRONT/REAR) 43.7 / 35.8 in
SHOULDER ROOM (FRONT/REAR) 58.5 / 56.9 in
HIP ROOM (FRONT/REAR) 55.4 / 55.5 in
FUEL-TANK CAPACITY 22.2 gal

jollick

Oh, sorry, I need to read more before I post.

JDR76

A lot more legroom, indeed.

And yes, this is a 1990 LS400 vs 2015 ES.

chrisexv6

It could be differences in how dimensions are measured (especially in regards to legroom, headroom, etc)

I dont think there is a standard - manufacturers can roughly measure however they want. Front seat all the way forward and seatback straight up, etc. Since there is nothing specifying HOW they do it, its almost impossible to actually compare between manufacturers.

And even within the same manufacturer they may have measured differently forever ago than they do now (good example: somehow on paper the Acura TLX has more legroom than our 2003 TL, yet when we drove the TLX, it was CLEARLY not the case)

The fact that the ES even comes close to the LS is impressive in its own right. Even with me (the tallest in our family, but Im not that tall....only 5'9") the passenger behind me in the rear seat who is same height as me still had plenty of legroom left. When my kids are in the back seat they look like they have 1.5 feet of legroom.

airahcaz

I had the 1st gen LS and it was pretty spacious and fast.

I can only imagine then, if the new ES is similarly sized and more powerful!