Question regarding recall for oil hose replacement?
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Question regarding recall for oil hose replacement?
I have a 2005 ES330. I have tried to find out if there is a recall on this car for a failing oil line hose that might destroy the engine if it fails.
Here is some info that I got from Avalon forum.
Problem: A defective design of the VVT-i oil line is a rubber hose which routes a high pressure flow of hot engine oil outside the engine block. The rubber deteriorates over time and miles and can unexpectedly break or rupture causing engine oil to rapidly drain from the engine. This can happen anywhere from about 20,000 to over 100,000 miles and can lead to very expensive repairs. Most owners report getting no warning from the from the oil or check engine lights before they realize they have a problem.
Vehicles affected: Any 2005 - 2009 Toyota or Lexus with the 3.5L V6 2GR-FE engine manufactured worldwide prior to April, 2008.
Manufactuing fix: Replace the defective metal & rubber oil line "assembly" with an all metal oil line.
Recall fix: Change out faulty rubber hose in the oil line "assembly" with a higher stregnth rubber hose. The rubber hose was not replaced with an all metal oil line as was done in the manufacturing fix was becasue in some but not all vehicles afftected, the job is very labor intensive if the engine compartment is a "tight fit" which could (but not in all cases) require removal of the power steering pump, sepentine belts, etc depending on how "tight" the engine compartment is.
Key problems with Toyota/Lexus recall notices: (1) The cheap "band-aid" fix (one rubber hose replaceed by another ) may not last the life of the rest of the car, (2) The recall was VIN specific and due to apparent glitches in Toyota computer systems, not all affected vehicles received the recall notice (3) The USA version had no sense of urgency attached to it (unlike the Canadian version) so many owners paid no attention to it. In the USA, the letter says essentially "offer good until March 2013" with no mileage limit specified while in Canada, the letter essentially said "bring it in right away." To make USA matters worse, the notices came in the same envelope - unattached - as the "sudden acceleration" recalls and could easily be ignored by the recipient, and most important - (4) although implicit in the wording of the USA recall, all post 60,000 mile warranty repairs for ancillary engine damage should be covered, although treatment amongst dealers is inconsistent and many have to "fight" to get repairs covered, especially where there is severe engine damage.
Isn't the engine specified in the recall what is in my 2005 ES330?
Thanks
Here is some info that I got from Avalon forum.
Problem: A defective design of the VVT-i oil line is a rubber hose which routes a high pressure flow of hot engine oil outside the engine block. The rubber deteriorates over time and miles and can unexpectedly break or rupture causing engine oil to rapidly drain from the engine. This can happen anywhere from about 20,000 to over 100,000 miles and can lead to very expensive repairs. Most owners report getting no warning from the from the oil or check engine lights before they realize they have a problem.
Vehicles affected: Any 2005 - 2009 Toyota or Lexus with the 3.5L V6 2GR-FE engine manufactured worldwide prior to April, 2008.
Manufactuing fix: Replace the defective metal & rubber oil line "assembly" with an all metal oil line.
Recall fix: Change out faulty rubber hose in the oil line "assembly" with a higher stregnth rubber hose. The rubber hose was not replaced with an all metal oil line as was done in the manufacturing fix was becasue in some but not all vehicles afftected, the job is very labor intensive if the engine compartment is a "tight fit" which could (but not in all cases) require removal of the power steering pump, sepentine belts, etc depending on how "tight" the engine compartment is.
Key problems with Toyota/Lexus recall notices: (1) The cheap "band-aid" fix (one rubber hose replaceed by another ) may not last the life of the rest of the car, (2) The recall was VIN specific and due to apparent glitches in Toyota computer systems, not all affected vehicles received the recall notice (3) The USA version had no sense of urgency attached to it (unlike the Canadian version) so many owners paid no attention to it. In the USA, the letter says essentially "offer good until March 2013" with no mileage limit specified while in Canada, the letter essentially said "bring it in right away." To make USA matters worse, the notices came in the same envelope - unattached - as the "sudden acceleration" recalls and could easily be ignored by the recipient, and most important - (4) although implicit in the wording of the USA recall, all post 60,000 mile warranty repairs for ancillary engine damage should be covered, although treatment amongst dealers is inconsistent and many have to "fight" to get repairs covered, especially where there is severe engine damage.
Isn't the engine specified in the recall what is in my 2005 ES330?
Thanks
06-30-16, 07:35 PM
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