bostonsnow

I just bought a 2005 ES330 without Nav/ML, but I have a 30 day exchange policy at my dealership where I can go back and get a 100% trade in against another car if I want..... so now I am second guessing my descision to NOT get Nav/ML....

I dont have any desire in the Nav, but would consider getting it if only for the ML. Actually, in other ways, the Nav is a negative, as then you have to have the 6-disc changer in center console and so you lose the console. BUT, if the sound will be better with the Nav/ML, i will consider it.

I see that with the 2005 ES330, there seem to be 7 speakers, whether you get factory sound or the Nav/ML. Are the speakers the same factory speakers either way, or do you get upgraded speakers with the NAV/ML option? that might make a big difference in my opinion.

I know that with the 2008 ES350, the stock system gives you 7 speakers, but the ML system gives you 14 speakers, so the ML gives you speaker advantage too.

SO, in summary, how much difference would there be in sound quality between these 3 options:

1) 2005 ES330 with stock factory system with 7 speakers
2) 2005 ES330 with the Nav/ML system with 7 speakers
3) 2005 ES 330 without Nav/ML but upgrade the 7 speakers to dynaudio or others....

BOston Snow
2005 ES330 Silver/Blk

mick_foley

From what I've read, the ML audio systems are definitely superior to the factory ones. The ML speakers are different than the stock "premium" system. I think on older ES300s the ML system was said to be better than in newer models. If I were you, I would DEFINITELY not upgrade the speakers to dynaudio or any others without also adding an aftermarket amplifier. The stock amp sucks.

For a quick car audio lesson, the number of speakers do not necessarily matter. The placement and quality of the speakers is what is important and that's what makes ML sound superior to the vast majority of factory sound systems.

Many of those who have ML systems say they are definitely worth it but they also paid a lot of money to get them so they may be a little biased. lol.

Lexusfreak

When searching for my 2005 Boston, I decided to stay clear of the Nav (for future upgrades were going to be an aggravation), but wanted the ML system.....which I agree is an absolute fantastic sound system.