Study finds nine models with zero driver fatalities
#31
Lexus Champion
True, but there are a surprising number of new-car buyers who have little or no idea what they're doing. Anyone, though, it seems, with a normal mind, who has had primary or secondary school and even the most rudimentary introduction to physics, should be able to put a simple 2 and 2 together and see that a major impact in a Smart-for-Two with a larger vehicle, even with its hyped Mercedes safety-engineering, is not going to be good news.
And there is a lot of misinformation being thrown around about how unsafe the Smart fortwo is (perhaps being thrown around by people who neither understand it nor like it). Yes, it is an incredibly small car but the tridion safety cell makes it incredibly crashworthy.
#32
Lexus Test Driver
Have to agree with Bit, and this is being in Detroit , it's usually older males in the Stang's, most kids I see are in Eco boxes and suv-cuv's, just because 2 kids in Stang's cut you off isn't a micro trend, you made it a stereotype
#33
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Well, bit, I'll respect your opinion and your experience, but, if I had a dollar, over the years, for every time I saw some idiot in a Mustang GT, SVT, or Cobra cut me or someone else off with some idiotic or dangerous high-speed maneuver, or a dollar for every Mustang-driving young kid in the newspaper whose parents will never see them again, or not see them in one piece, I could probably buy a Mustang with it.
when was the last time you saw a dangerous maneuver from a mustang driver?
#34
Lexus Test Driver
i think that might have been true 20 years ago when 'kids' got used mustangs based on the ancient crap fox platform, but that's definitely not the case today in my experience. and thankfully most of those old mustangs have gone to the scrap heap.
when was the last time you saw a dangerous maneuver from a mustang driver?
when was the last time you saw a dangerous maneuver from a mustang driver?
#35
Lexus Fanatic
That is making a mighty big assumption. It may be obvious to us car enthusiasts here, who have done a lot of reading and viewed many videos of car crash tests, but it is definitely NOT that obvious to the average car buyer, unless they have been told about, and shown evidence of, real crash tests. And physics is an incredibly difficult subject for the average person to understand.
Now, having said that, I'll agree that the Smart may be comparably safe for its size, with the Mercedes-engineered safety-roll cage, but even that only goes so far if and when you have a serious accident in a Smart.
Last edited by mmarshall; 02-01-15 at 05:29 PM.
#36
Lexus Fanatic
I wasn't necessarily trying to build a stereotype, as I noted in my posts that there ARE responsible Mustang drivers. But I've seen a lot of Mustang V8 jocks do a lot of very stupid things....sometimes surviving them, sometimes not. Enough, in my case, to at least see somewhat of a pattern.
However, you're correct that the very latest generation of high-school kids don't seem as interested in high-powered pony cars as those up to just a few years ago. In fact, a number of today's kids aren't interested in cars at all.....they're too busy with their electronic toys, and prefer to let Mom and Dad the driving while they text all day.
#37
Lexus Fanatic
Sorry, i was unclear on that. When I used the term "newspaper", I meant the media in general........including the Internet.
You'd be surprised, though, at how many paper copies the Washington Post and New York Times still sell....even with today's 24/7 electronic media. Both of those papers have an enormous circulation....have for decades.
You'd be surprised, though, at how many paper copies the Washington Post and New York Times still sell....even with today's 24/7 electronic media. Both of those papers have an enormous circulation....have for decades.
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#41
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Anyhow, getting back to topic...........
when was the last time you saw a dangerous maneuver from a mustang driver?
Last edited by mmarshall; 02-03-15 at 05:08 PM.
#43
Lexus Test Driver
That is making a mighty big assumption. It may be obvious to us car enthusiasts here, who have done a lot of reading and viewed many videos of car crash tests, but it is definitely NOT that obvious to the average car buyer, unless they have been told about, and shown evidence of, real crash tests. And physics is an incredibly difficult subject for the average person to understand.
And there is a lot of misinformation being thrown around about how unsafe the Smart fortwo is (perhaps being thrown around by people who neither understand it nor like it). Yes, it is an incredibly small car but the tridion safety cell makes it incredibly crashworthy.
And there is a lot of misinformation being thrown around about how unsafe the Smart fortwo is (perhaps being thrown around by people who neither understand it nor like it). Yes, it is an incredibly small car but the tridion safety cell makes it incredibly crashworthy.
#44
Lexus Fanatic
Go take a look at one of our D.C. Metro Subway cars.....then come back and tell me I'm living in Fantasyland.
I will, however, agree with you on this point. There is only so much you can do to make a small microcar safe in a major impact, even with the vaunted Mercedes engineering. Then you run into a simple and inconvenient truth called the laws of physics.
Originally Posted by rxonmymind
I can make an INDESTRUCTIBLE crash cell however, when that 1800lb car meets and 3500- 4500 lb vehicle and stop from 70-0 then bounces off like a rubber ball it's not the vehicle that you have to worry about. YOUR body will NOT live decelerating from 70-0 mph. Your internal organs, neck, brain etc will still be traveling at 70. But your car door will still open & look pretty. What a load of crap & half truth their selling about the smart car.
Last edited by mmarshall; 02-04-15 at 06:05 AM.
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