I Don't Get the Whole "F" Sport Thing
01-21-15, 11:23 PM
#61
Pole Position
For Lexus, my dream would be :
F-Sport = handling
F =handling + GT performance
FS = track level handling/performance
F-Sport = handling
F =handling + GT performance
FS = track level handling/performance
01-22-15, 08:04 PM
#63
The pursuit of F
FYI.
F SPORT PACKAGE IS 350 AWD:
$3,450*
REQUIRED*
Twin projector LED headlamps
F SPORT 18-inch split-five-spoke alloy wheels with 225/40R18 (front), 255/35R18 (rear) with summer (RWD) or all-season (AWD) performance tires*
F SPORT exterior styling including front fascia and grille (deletes foglamps), front fender badges
F SPORT suspension tuning
Adaptive Variable Suspension (AVS) with Sport S+ driving mode (IS 350 F SPORT)
LFA-inspired digital instrumentation
F SPORT bolstered and heated front seats
F SPORT perforated leather-trimmed steering wheel and shift ****
Aluminum pedals
Silver Performance interior trim
High-friction brake pads*
F SPORT PACKAGE GS 350 AWD:
$4,640*
REQUIRED*
F SPORT 19 x 8.0-in split-five-spoke alloy wheels with 235/40VR19 all–season tires* (I wasn't sure about staggered wheels for the GS. SW13GS confirmed the non-staggered setup (thank you) and as we can see from the official Lexus specs here)
Drive Mode Select with Normal, ECO, Sport S and Sport S+ modes
F SPORT exterior styling including unique front bumper, upper and lower grille inserts, rear valance and rear spoiler
13.1-in ventilated front discs with two-piston calipers
F SPORT-tuned Adaptive Variable Suspension (AVS) with electronically controlled shock absorbers
Variable Gear-Ratio Steering (VGRS)
F SPORT 16-way power-adjustable driver's seat with power side bolsters, four-way lumbar and extendable lower cushion
F SPORT perforated leather–trimmed shift **** and heated steering wheel
Striated aluminum interior trim (GS)
Black headliner
Aluminum pedals
01-23-15, 04:43 AM
#64
Lexus Test Driver
This is from the car salesman side of me.
Having the F-Sport versions does spur sales. Cosmetic changes/upgrades do matter to some shoppers. But F-Sport is more than cosmetics. You do feel the difference. That's worth the extra price premium for sure. Here's what bothers me. Some people want the F-Sport but will pretend its no big deal and try to negotiate the price to the same as the regular model. Then I'll say, lets do the regular model since you don't want to pay more. Then they refuse to take the regular model after having driven the F-Sport.
Its gotten worse with the Crafted Line. People will say, its just painted wheels and red seats. Why should I pay more....but they refuse to take the regular model after seeing it and don't want to pay more.
But its clear to me that F-Sport is desirable and needs to stay.
BMW has M and M-Sport and no one is complaining.
My fantasy would be to have 3 horsepower levels. Base power, F-Sport power then F power. My enthusiast side always speaks out in the end.
Having the F-Sport versions does spur sales. Cosmetic changes/upgrades do matter to some shoppers. But F-Sport is more than cosmetics. You do feel the difference. That's worth the extra price premium for sure. Here's what bothers me. Some people want the F-Sport but will pretend its no big deal and try to negotiate the price to the same as the regular model. Then I'll say, lets do the regular model since you don't want to pay more. Then they refuse to take the regular model after having driven the F-Sport.
Its gotten worse with the Crafted Line. People will say, its just painted wheels and red seats. Why should I pay more....but they refuse to take the regular model after seeing it and don't want to pay more.
But its clear to me that F-Sport is desirable and needs to stay.
BMW has M and M-Sport and no one is complaining.
My fantasy would be to have 3 horsepower levels. Base power, F-Sport power then F power. My enthusiast side always speaks out in the end.
Cadillac does it, CTS 272HP or 321HP, VSport 420HP, V 556HP (current) 640HP (coming soon) .
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ACP84
NX - 1st Gen (2015-2021)
6
04-26-19 08:16 AM