Toyota may look to outside supplier for diesels
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Toyota may look to outside supplier for diesels
Posted Sep 18th 2006 4:22PM by Randall Halcomb
In its 50-year history in the US, Toyota has never sourced an engine for its vehicles from an outside supplier. There is a possibility that this may change if Toyota decides to put a diesel in its new Tundra full-size pickup truck. While we think it's more likely for Toyota to leverage its Hino commercial truck division, it could decide to pick from many of the U.S. diesel engine manufacturers that are developing smaller displacement diesels for Ford, GM, and Dodge. Nissan is also courting a U.S. manufacturer to supply a V8 diesel for its Titan pickup (although Nissan also has it's own diesel manufacturing capability). No one seems to be mentioning Isuzu as a possible supplier, as it has extensive experience with diesels, both large and small (it is currently suppling the DuraMax diesel used by GM).
Regardless, Toyota sees through its cloud of hybrid hype to realize that truck buyers may actually want an oil-burning engine, perhaps more so than a pack of batteries and an electric motor. The domestics have finally gotten the hint that if they're going to continue to sell full-size trucks, they need to team up their body-on-frame bread-and-butter with a high-tech low displacement diesel to get all the fuel economy they can. Now Toyota is looking to go down that path, and it will be interesting to see whether it chooses to develop an engine in-house or go outside to another supplier.
[The engine pictured is Hino's J05D-TA four cylinder diesel. It will likely not be used in the new Tundra.]
[Source: Automotive News]
In its 50-year history in the US, Toyota has never sourced an engine for its vehicles from an outside supplier. There is a possibility that this may change if Toyota decides to put a diesel in its new Tundra full-size pickup truck. While we think it's more likely for Toyota to leverage its Hino commercial truck division, it could decide to pick from many of the U.S. diesel engine manufacturers that are developing smaller displacement diesels for Ford, GM, and Dodge. Nissan is also courting a U.S. manufacturer to supply a V8 diesel for its Titan pickup (although Nissan also has it's own diesel manufacturing capability). No one seems to be mentioning Isuzu as a possible supplier, as it has extensive experience with diesels, both large and small (it is currently suppling the DuraMax diesel used by GM).
Regardless, Toyota sees through its cloud of hybrid hype to realize that truck buyers may actually want an oil-burning engine, perhaps more so than a pack of batteries and an electric motor. The domestics have finally gotten the hint that if they're going to continue to sell full-size trucks, they need to team up their body-on-frame bread-and-butter with a high-tech low displacement diesel to get all the fuel economy they can. Now Toyota is looking to go down that path, and it will be interesting to see whether it chooses to develop an engine in-house or go outside to another supplier.
[The engine pictured is Hino's J05D-TA four cylinder diesel. It will likely not be used in the new Tundra.]
[Source: Automotive News]
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LOL, they're not gonna put some wimpy 4-cyl diesel in there. It's gotta be able to run with the big boys that are cranking out 350hp/650tq, or not run at all. The domestics might have exclusive agreements on some of their diesels, or at least priority on supplies so there might be logistical issues to Toyota breaking into the diesel p/u market also.
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i wish we read actual automotivenews article, not just bad journalism from autoblog who took the headline and wrote their stuff around it.
Toyota already makes most powerful 4cly passanger diesel and torquiest 4cly truck diesel... they also make first diesel hybrid... and the cleanest diesel in the world.
Additionally, they have V6 diesel for Land Cruiser for 8 years now, so i very much doubt that they couldnt make one for Tundra...
Toyota already makes most powerful 4cly passanger diesel and torquiest 4cly truck diesel... they also make first diesel hybrid... and the cleanest diesel in the world.
Additionally, they have V6 diesel for Land Cruiser for 8 years now, so i very much doubt that they couldnt make one for Tundra...
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A sales rep friend at Toyota down here told me a lot of people ask him about a diesel truck (diesel is extremely common down here and you can get it at just about any gas station), but I think there might be some environment reasons for this.
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