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Old 02-28-14, 04:22 PM
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OK my new UW IS350 F-Sport is on the ship and arriving in a few weeks and I plan to get a new car prep done and clear bra (Xpel ultimate). I've been looking at OC Pro but have been given an excellent quote for 22ple which actually may work better for my taste. Anyway, I've heard various recommendations about what to do first, clear bra or coating. I've heard do the new car prep and coating/sealant and then apply clear bra. I've heard do the clear bra and apply coating over clear bra. Finally, I've heard clean/prep/polish the paint, apply clear bra, then coating.

What do the professional detailers on here recommend consider the clear bra and 22ple path I plan to take?

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Old 02-28-14, 04:49 PM
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When possible, the paint should be polished to remove all surface defects, then the clear bra should be applied to bare paint. A sealant, wax, or paint coating can then be applied on top of the clear bra for added protection.

You don't want to have anything between the clear bra and the paint that might cause issues with the clear bra's adhesion. There are many people that have had the clear bra applied on top of a coating, however, and I have only heard of a couple of issues so the risk is minimal..... but like I said, if possible, have the car prepped, then clear bra, then coating.
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I have OC Pro, then Xpel Ultimate, and then OC on top of the Xpel. So far, no issues and liking the set up

Edit to add, only decided to add the Xpel after opti-coating the car due to picking up a bunch of rock chips from our pretty bad winter.

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Originally Posted by zmcgovern4
When possible, the paint should be polished to remove all surface defects, then the clear bra should be applied to bare paint. A sealant, wax, or paint coating can then be applied on top of the clear bra for added protection.

You don't want to have anything between the clear bra and the paint that might cause issues with the clear bra's adhesion. There are many people that have had the clear bra applied on top of a coating, however, and I have only heard of a couple of issues so the risk is minimal..... but like I said, if possible, have the car prepped, then clear bra, then coating.
Thanks man, I was hoping you would respond. You just validated the process the detailer said he would do and confirmed my decision. Thanks!
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Agreed with Zach on this one. Most detailers or PPF installers who recommend a coating beneath the PPF/clearbra make the case that in case of removal, the film will come off easier. However, someone putting the film on in the first place rarely if ever plans on removing it (unless it's for a necessary repair or to fix an aging film), so I see no point in that. Also, unless the film is extremely old (old type of film, thicker with strong adhesive, which you shouldn't find around these days) or been on a car for a VERY long time, there should be no issues removing it.

In short, wash, decontaminate, polish and clean paint of oils, etc. before the film. Then, install the film and you're good to go.

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Originally Posted by Greg@DI
Agreed with Zach on this one. Most detailers or PPF installers who recommend a coating beneath the PPF/clearbra make the case that in case of removal, the film will come off easier. However, someone putting the film on in the first place rarely if ever plans on removing it (unless it's for a necessary repair or to fix an aging film), so I see no point in that. Also, unless the film is extremely old (old type of film, thicker with strong adhesive, which you shouldn't find around these days) or been on a car for a VERY long time, there should be no issues removing it.

In short, wash, decontaminate, polish and clean paint of oils, etc. before the film. Then, install the film and you're good to go.

Ivan @ DI
Thanks for the info!
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