Racing Hart M6 on GS400 question
06-07-04, 10:52 PM
#16
Originally posted by SC300Es
Question. The higher the number the more tucked in the wheel is. Or is it the other way around?
Example: Is +44 more tucked in then +32?
It's still confusing to me.
Ed
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/offset.htm
Question. The higher the number the more tucked in the wheel is. Or is it the other way around?
Example: Is +44 more tucked in then +32?
It's still confusing to me.
Ed
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/offset.htm
06-07-04, 10:56 PM
#17
Originally posted by Cadd
Yeah, I guess I know what you guys are right.
The positive offset is too high, which results in jamming the wheels in closer to the suspension.
Rom,
When you said
What do you mean by rubbing? you mean rubbing the fenders right? Going from a +26 to a +36 will sticks the wheels IN more (closer to the suspension....and further away from the fenders).
The thing is....I don't *think* I want a staggered set up (for rotation purposes)....unless someone here convinces me that tire-life is almost the same regardless whether you rotate or not.
I do like the staggered look, but just worried about uneven wear without rotation (I know I know, I can still rotate if I unmount the tires).
I want a very conservative setup. I don't every want to rub. I plan to drop the car using either Eibach/Bilstein or Tein CS. I don't want to go over 18s since I live in the pothole infested streets of NYC.
What do you guys think is a nice conservative setup? 18x8F and 18x9R?
Thx for the help.
Yeah, I guess I know what you guys are right.
The positive offset is too high, which results in jamming the wheels in closer to the suspension.
Rom,
When you said
What do you mean by rubbing? you mean rubbing the fenders right? Going from a +26 to a +36 will sticks the wheels IN more (closer to the suspension....and further away from the fenders).
The thing is....I don't *think* I want a staggered set up (for rotation purposes)....unless someone here convinces me that tire-life is almost the same regardless whether you rotate or not.
I do like the staggered look, but just worried about uneven wear without rotation (I know I know, I can still rotate if I unmount the tires).
I want a very conservative setup. I don't every want to rub. I plan to drop the car using either Eibach/Bilstein or Tein CS. I don't want to go over 18s since I live in the pothole infested streets of NYC.
What do you guys think is a nice conservative setup? 18x8F and 18x9R?
Thx for the help.
and you can go without staggered that's no problem, but you stil have to worry about the front. basically if a wheel fit in the front, it fits in the back. but a wheel fitting in the back might not fit the front. so imho, if you REALLy want to go with 8, try to get 32. NOT 36....
06-07-04, 10:57 PM
#18
Originally posted by Neo
Yes. rominl's setup is pretty agressive. If his 8.5 was 8, he'd be at +26. So to be less aggressive and to not rub, he is suggesting to go with +36. That is already 9mm more aggressive then the L-Tuned wheels which are 18x8f +45.
Yes. rominl's setup is pretty agressive. If his 8.5 was 8, he'd be at +26. So to be less aggressive and to not rub, he is suggesting to go with +36. That is already 9mm more aggressive then the L-Tuned wheels which are 18x8f +45.
if i am right, the stock wheels are 8 +50 offset, so you can imagine that 8 +45 is still very conservative
06-07-04, 10:59 PM
#19
Originally posted by Cadd
Hmmm, so if other GS4 owners have the 18x8 (+45) wheels, I should be fine with 18x8 (+44) right? I guess it'll look better if it's not tucked so in.
What do you guys think? Should I get a staggered setup? 18x9 in the rear? Or will 18x8 all the way around be OK? Will it look funny?
I'm new to wheels & suspension. Any/all advice will be greatly appreciated.
The seller is looking for $1,300. I'm not sure if it's worth it or not. If I'm patient, do you think I can get better wheels/tires (that'll fit better) for $1,300 (used of course)?
Hmmm, so if other GS4 owners have the 18x8 (+45) wheels, I should be fine with 18x8 (+44) right? I guess it'll look better if it's not tucked so in.
What do you guys think? Should I get a staggered setup? 18x9 in the rear? Or will 18x8 all the way around be OK? Will it look funny?
I'm new to wheels & suspension. Any/all advice will be greatly appreciated.
The seller is looking for $1,300. I'm not sure if it's worth it or not. If I'm patient, do you think I can get better wheels/tires (that'll fit better) for $1,300 (used of course)?
about the staggered setup, well, it's up to you, to me staggered is so much better, peformance and look. yes it wears out tires and you can't rotate, but when you are spending so much money on wheels, tires should be a no-issue
06-08-04, 03:08 AM
#20
Originally posted by rominl
again, i said 8 +32, NOT 36, damnit if i am right, the stock wheels are 8 +50 offset, so you can imagine that 8 +45 is still very conservative
again, i said 8 +32, NOT 36, damnit
if i am right, the stock wheels are 8 +50 offset, so you can imagine that 8 +45 is still very conservative
As for the offset, I'll have to look close at my wheels next time. I know they are not flushed but I did not think I had that much extra room there.
06-08-04, 12:22 PM
#21
Originally posted by Neo
Sorry, I should have read what you posted instead of what Cadd wrote. We both just perpetuated the wrong number. As for the offset, I'll have to look close at my wheels next time. I know they are not flushed but I did not think I had that much extra room there.
Sorry, I should have read what you posted instead of what Cadd wrote. We both just perpetuated the wrong number.
As for the offset, I'll have to look close at my wheels next time. I know they are not flushed but I did not think I had that much extra room there.
06-08-04, 02:03 PM
#22
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
Ok, everyone ignore what I said about +36.
I just used +36 as an example.
Anyway, let me ask you offset experts another hypothetical question:
Just say I put on an 18x8 +32 in the front.
Now, for some strange reason, I want to go with 15" wheels. I go out and buy me some 15x8 +32 for the front.
Since both of these wheels are 8 inch wide with the same offset, they both should mount on with no problems right? They should be identical in terms of how it sits in the wheel well, right?
Again, hypothetically, if the 18x8 +32 rim is 5mm away from the fender and 8mm away from the suspension, the 15x8 +32 rim should be the same right?
I just used +36 as an example.
Anyway, let me ask you offset experts another hypothetical question:
Just say I put on an 18x8 +32 in the front.
Now, for some strange reason, I want to go with 15" wheels. I go out and buy me some 15x8 +32 for the front.
Since both of these wheels are 8 inch wide with the same offset, they both should mount on with no problems right? They should be identical in terms of how it sits in the wheel well, right?
Again, hypothetically, if the 18x8 +32 rim is 5mm away from the fender and 8mm away from the suspension, the 15x8 +32 rim should be the same right?
06-08-04, 05:21 PM
#23
first, question, how do you get the number that 18x8 +32 it will be 5mm from fender and 8mm from suspension?! by suspension what do you mean? the springs and shocks? if so i can tell you there are way more than 8mm.
anyway, yes, offset is just related to width of wheels, nothing to do with diameter. provided that you get the right size of tires it would be the same.
however, 15 won't fit on the gs though, too small to fit over the rotors i believe?
anyway, yes, offset is just related to width of wheels, nothing to do with diameter. provided that you get the right size of tires it would be the same.
however, 15 won't fit on the gs though, too small to fit over the rotors i believe?
06-08-04, 06:03 PM
#24
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
Rominl,
You just answered my question.
You were wondering how I got 5mm from the fender and 8mm from the suspension....very simple....I made those numbers up.
It was just a hypothetical question.
Thanks.
You just answered my question.
You were wondering how I got 5mm from the fender and 8mm from the suspension....very simple....I made those numbers up.
It was just a hypothetical question.
Thanks.
06-08-04, 09:45 PM
#25
Originally posted by Cadd
Rominl,
You just answered my question.
You were wondering how I got 5mm from the fender and 8mm from the suspension....very simple....I made those numbers up.
It was just a hypothetical question.
Thanks.
Rominl,
You just answered my question.
You were wondering how I got 5mm from the fender and 8mm from the suspension....very simple....I made those numbers up.
It was just a hypothetical question.
Thanks.
hahhaa..... dunno, just found this very funny
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