Super rare, but I bought the wrong size for my rears These wheels are $1000 each without tires with 3 month wait. I have two in Platinum Black 18x8 +27 offset 114.3 x 5 with one month old Yokohama S.drive tires on them, selling this pair for only $1000!! Yes, I lose $1400 my loss your gain. Center can be machined up to 3mm I'm told, if you want to make them +30 offset