Bushing options and part numbers
#46
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The upper arm usually doesn't wear out nearly as fast as the lower ones, so I would just start by replacing the lower ones and then see if you still think you need the upper ones after driving around some. I think you'll be satisfied with just the lowers.
Some people have claimed that their local dealer sold LCA bushings separately, but nobody can give any info on how to get them so draw your own conclusions about that. It's not a problem now that you can buy aftermarket bushings from multiple sources. A few years ago they were almost impossible to find anywhere, including the dealer.
Maybe the moderators can explain why this thread isn't a sticky yet?
#47
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I warned folks to stay away from loose bushings and just save up for completely new Supra front lca's.. You'll be sorry in 10 months that you didn't just replace the control arms completely. In less than a year the clunking will return greater than ever thanks to your ball joints being shot. If you have money to waste on doing the same labor twice within a year go for it
#48
so, i replaced my orginal bushings with daizen's, they are a little firm for my taste, especially since i have no other suspension mods (except daizen steering rack bushings). So, i just ordered new bushings and insulators (as i don't know what i did with old ones) from Carson toyota, but now i think i remember there were some steel sleeves like two plates or something when i did the Daizen's. Can anyone remember this or has gone from Daizen's to the 97+ bushings and remember needing sleeves, if so can i even get the sleeves?
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www.lpdauto.com i use there bushing track tested STIFFER THAN THE DAIZEN bushings great for auto-x and drifting
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Just purchased a 95 SC400 w/ 130k miles on it. It's Pearl White in unbelievably good shape, with the exception of the suspension. It looks like the car is bottomed out, and if I hit a bump in the road I hear a distinct clunk from the left rear. It also likes to "wander" when I'm on the freeway and hit any kind of bump or pothole.
I'm taking it to the local Lexus Dealership on Tuesday for their opinion... and I'm preparing myself for some serious sticker shock.
That being said... I'm a relatively handy guy, but I know NOTHING when it comes to suspensions. I've read this entire posting (as well as some others) and I'm wondering... is this a project I can undertake myself with a few common tools?? Or - do these suspension modifications require a lift, welder, torch, impact wrenches, and other specialized tools?
What do you guys think I "should" try myself, and what "should I leave to the professionals??"
Thanks... this is a great resource!!
LesMan@Hotmail.com
I'm taking it to the local Lexus Dealership on Tuesday for their opinion... and I'm preparing myself for some serious sticker shock.
That being said... I'm a relatively handy guy, but I know NOTHING when it comes to suspensions. I've read this entire posting (as well as some others) and I'm wondering... is this a project I can undertake myself with a few common tools?? Or - do these suspension modifications require a lift, welder, torch, impact wrenches, and other specialized tools?
What do you guys think I "should" try myself, and what "should I leave to the professionals??"
Thanks... this is a great resource!!
LesMan@Hotmail.com
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That being said... I'm a relatively handy guy, but I know NOTHING when it comes to suspensions. I've read this entire posting (as well as some others) and I'm wondering... is this a project I can undertake myself with a few common tools?? Or - do these suspension modifications require a lift, welder, torch, impact wrenches, and other specialized tools?
What do you guys think I "should" try myself, and what "should I leave to the professionals??"
Thanks... this is a great resource!!
LesMan@Hotmail.com
What do you guys think I "should" try myself, and what "should I leave to the professionals??"
Thanks... this is a great resource!!
LesMan@Hotmail.com
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Just purchased a 95 SC400 w/ 130k miles on it. It's Pearl White in unbelievably good shape, with the exception of the suspension. It looks like the car is bottomed out, and if I hit a bump in the road I hear a distinct clunk from the left rear. It also likes to "wander" when I'm on the freeway and hit any kind of bump or pothole.
I'm taking it to the local Lexus Dealership on Tuesday for their opinion... and I'm preparing myself for some serious sticker shock.
That being said... I'm a relatively handy guy, but I know NOTHING when it comes to suspensions. I've read this entire posting (as well as some others) and I'm wondering... is this a project I can undertake myself with a few common tools?? Or - do these suspension modifications require a lift, welder, torch, impact wrenches, and other specialized tools?
What do you guys think I "should" try myself, and what "should I leave to the professionals??"
Thanks... this is a great resource!!
LesMan@Hotmail.com
I'm taking it to the local Lexus Dealership on Tuesday for their opinion... and I'm preparing myself for some serious sticker shock.
That being said... I'm a relatively handy guy, but I know NOTHING when it comes to suspensions. I've read this entire posting (as well as some others) and I'm wondering... is this a project I can undertake myself with a few common tools?? Or - do these suspension modifications require a lift, welder, torch, impact wrenches, and other specialized tools?
What do you guys think I "should" try myself, and what "should I leave to the professionals??"
Thanks... this is a great resource!!
LesMan@Hotmail.com
92 Lexus SC400- my first one! 207k and ready for complete suspension/brake replacement- it still has OEM struts-YEEOUCH
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Just purchased a 95 SC400 w/ 130k miles on it. It's Pearl White in unbelievably good shape, with the exception of the suspension. It looks like the car is bottomed out, and if I hit a bump in the road I hear a distinct clunk from the left rear. It also likes to "wander" when I'm on the freeway and hit any kind of bump or pothole.
I'm taking it to the local Lexus Dealership on Tuesday for their opinion... and I'm preparing myself for some serious sticker shock.
That being said... I'm a relatively handy guy, but I know NOTHING when it comes to suspensions. I've read this entire posting (as well as some others) and I'm wondering... is this a project I can undertake myself with a few common tools?? Or - do these suspension modifications require a lift, welder, torch, impact wrenches, and other specialized tools?
What do you guys think I "should" try myself, and what "should I leave to the professionals??"
Thanks... this is a great resource!!
LesMan@Hotmail.com
I'm taking it to the local Lexus Dealership on Tuesday for their opinion... and I'm preparing myself for some serious sticker shock.
That being said... I'm a relatively handy guy, but I know NOTHING when it comes to suspensions. I've read this entire posting (as well as some others) and I'm wondering... is this a project I can undertake myself with a few common tools?? Or - do these suspension modifications require a lift, welder, torch, impact wrenches, and other specialized tools?
What do you guys think I "should" try myself, and what "should I leave to the professionals??"
Thanks... this is a great resource!!
LesMan@Hotmail.com
Let us know what the Lex dealer has to $ay.
#58
Part # on Lexus Front Upper Control Arm : (Right) 48610-29046, (Left) 48630-29046
The upper arm usually doesn't wear out nearly as fast as the lower ones, so I would just start by replacing the lower ones and then see if you still think you need the upper ones after driving around some. I think you'll be satisfied with just the lowers.
Some people have claimed that their local dealer sold LCA bushings separately, but nobody can give any info on how to get them so draw your own conclusions about that. It's not a problem now that you can buy aftermarket bushings from multiple sources. A few years ago they were almost impossible to find anywhere, including the dealer.
Maybe the moderators can explain why this thread isn't a sticky yet?
The upper arm usually doesn't wear out nearly as fast as the lower ones, so I would just start by replacing the lower ones and then see if you still think you need the upper ones after driving around some. I think you'll be satisfied with just the lowers.
Some people have claimed that their local dealer sold LCA bushings separately, but nobody can give any info on how to get them so draw your own conclusions about that. It's not a problem now that you can buy aftermarket bushings from multiple sources. A few years ago they were almost impossible to find anywhere, including the dealer.
Maybe the moderators can explain why this thread isn't a sticky yet?
#59
Replace bushings or entire lower control arms?
Great thread! Please sticky, it's the best info on bushings and LCA's I've found using search.
Me and my mechanic are a bit at odds about the bushing replacement vs. just replacing the entire LCA's. He said get a bushing kit and I am thinking I'd rather replace the entire lower control arm if the ball joint is old and will need to be replaced sooner than later anyway.
I would go with him just because the cost. LCA's are outrageous! The bushings are definitely cheaper, but if the suspension is rough after replacing the bushings, the arms would be replaced anyway.
Has anyone on CL replaced the bushings and lived to regret it?
There seems to be a bit of confusion in this thread about using Supra LCA's. Are they compatible with SC's? How are they superior to Lexus OEM LCA's?
Is anyone using after market bushings that they love? Daizen's sound like they are a bit stiff. Ebay is crawling with polyurethane kits, but they may very well be garbage.
If I was going to go ahead and replace the LCA's, would you recommend getting them new from a dealer so that the ball joints are completely fresh? I realize it depends on driving habits, but what is the norm for replacing bushings / lower control arms (miles on car)? Is there a clear cut way to estimate wear on the ball joint?
I know this post is long, but I want to quote some of the contradicting info ebay vender's are giving about this repair. I know they want to push their product, but......
Lower control arm vendor
"IF YOUR CAR "PULLS" TO EITHER SIDE, OR YOU HAVE SUSPENSION NOISE, OR YOUR WHEEL ALIGNMENT IS OFF......THEN YOUR LOWER CONTROL ARM BUSHINGS AND/OR BALL JOINT IS PROBABLY WORN AWAY. HOWEVER DUE TO THE DESIGN, YOU MUST REPLACE THE COMPLETE ARM.......
TAKE MY ADVICE, WE SPECIALIZE IN LEXUS PARTS AND REPAIRS AND ITS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED BY LEXUS TO REPLACE THE COMPLETE ARM FOR MECHANICAL REASONS. THATS WHY THEY DON'T SELL THE BUSHINGS SEPARATELY NOR DO THEY RECOMMEND BUYING AFTERMARKET BUSHING KITS.
DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME ACCORDING TO THE MANUFACTURE AND OUR EXPERTISE, REPLACE THE COMPLETE ARM WHICH INCLUDES THE BALL JOINT. IT WILL SAVE YOU A LOT OF TIME, MONEY AND HEADACHE IN THE LONG RUN. TRUST ME......WE GET MANY CUSTOMERS WHO HAD THE BUSHINGS REPLACED, AND THEY STILL END UP BRINGING THEIR CARS TO US, TO INSTALL THE ARM BECAUSE THOSE AFTERMARKET KITS SQUEEK, WEAR AWAY AND DOES NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM. .... DONT LET THIS BE YOU! SPEND YOUR HARD EARNED ONCE! NOT TWO AND THREE TIMES!" - Pretty convincing, huh?
bushing vendor
"Urethane Front left & right LOWER & UPPER Control Arm Bushing Kit
No more changing the whole control arm!!! This new kit can be used to replace those control arm bushings that always wear out on your Lexus. Made from polyurethane so it'll last a lot longer than the factory rubber bushings. These bushings will also increase suspension performance making your car handle better around turns.
You can imagine how difficult it is to maintain proper front suspension caster and camber when the control arms are wobbling on mushy rubber bushings. Prothane's design provides superior handling through optimum compliance resistance. Furthermore, you can be assured that your alignment settings will be accurately maintained."
Sorry for the LONG post.
Me and my mechanic are a bit at odds about the bushing replacement vs. just replacing the entire LCA's. He said get a bushing kit and I am thinking I'd rather replace the entire lower control arm if the ball joint is old and will need to be replaced sooner than later anyway.
I would go with him just because the cost. LCA's are outrageous! The bushings are definitely cheaper, but if the suspension is rough after replacing the bushings, the arms would be replaced anyway.
Has anyone on CL replaced the bushings and lived to regret it?
There seems to be a bit of confusion in this thread about using Supra LCA's. Are they compatible with SC's? How are they superior to Lexus OEM LCA's?
Is anyone using after market bushings that they love? Daizen's sound like they are a bit stiff. Ebay is crawling with polyurethane kits, but they may very well be garbage.
If I was going to go ahead and replace the LCA's, would you recommend getting them new from a dealer so that the ball joints are completely fresh? I realize it depends on driving habits, but what is the norm for replacing bushings / lower control arms (miles on car)? Is there a clear cut way to estimate wear on the ball joint?
I know this post is long, but I want to quote some of the contradicting info ebay vender's are giving about this repair. I know they want to push their product, but......
Lower control arm vendor
"IF YOUR CAR "PULLS" TO EITHER SIDE, OR YOU HAVE SUSPENSION NOISE, OR YOUR WHEEL ALIGNMENT IS OFF......THEN YOUR LOWER CONTROL ARM BUSHINGS AND/OR BALL JOINT IS PROBABLY WORN AWAY. HOWEVER DUE TO THE DESIGN, YOU MUST REPLACE THE COMPLETE ARM.......
TAKE MY ADVICE, WE SPECIALIZE IN LEXUS PARTS AND REPAIRS AND ITS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED BY LEXUS TO REPLACE THE COMPLETE ARM FOR MECHANICAL REASONS. THATS WHY THEY DON'T SELL THE BUSHINGS SEPARATELY NOR DO THEY RECOMMEND BUYING AFTERMARKET BUSHING KITS.
DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME ACCORDING TO THE MANUFACTURE AND OUR EXPERTISE, REPLACE THE COMPLETE ARM WHICH INCLUDES THE BALL JOINT. IT WILL SAVE YOU A LOT OF TIME, MONEY AND HEADACHE IN THE LONG RUN. TRUST ME......WE GET MANY CUSTOMERS WHO HAD THE BUSHINGS REPLACED, AND THEY STILL END UP BRINGING THEIR CARS TO US, TO INSTALL THE ARM BECAUSE THOSE AFTERMARKET KITS SQUEEK, WEAR AWAY AND DOES NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM. .... DONT LET THIS BE YOU! SPEND YOUR HARD EARNED ONCE! NOT TWO AND THREE TIMES!" - Pretty convincing, huh?
bushing vendor
"Urethane Front left & right LOWER & UPPER Control Arm Bushing Kit
No more changing the whole control arm!!! This new kit can be used to replace those control arm bushings that always wear out on your Lexus. Made from polyurethane so it'll last a lot longer than the factory rubber bushings. These bushings will also increase suspension performance making your car handle better around turns.
You can imagine how difficult it is to maintain proper front suspension caster and camber when the control arms are wobbling on mushy rubber bushings. Prothane's design provides superior handling through optimum compliance resistance. Furthermore, you can be assured that your alignment settings will be accurately maintained."
Sorry for the LONG post.
#60
Supra LCA's DO NOT FIT 97-00 SC's
I contacted Carson Toyota, great source. I was informed that the Supra LCA"s do not fit 1997-2000 SC's
Fortunately the Parts guy at Carson gave me a contact, Armstrong distributors offers polyurethane bushings...
Fortunately the Parts guy at Carson gave me a contact, Armstrong distributors offers polyurethane bushings...
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