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Old Feb 24, 2017 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
LS500 will sell fine at 90K. The ES will grow on size and price. GS will will be a bit larger and it will be based off the new Rwd platform as that of the LS and LC.

I was going to reply to your post for the LC being that it will sell fine in the LS thread.
I'm very happy to hear that
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Old Feb 27, 2017 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SW15LS
Remember too now there is no SWB LS, so the GS has room to grow. Assuming there is one.
Yes there is room to grow, but Lexus just can't seem to get the GS formula right.
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Old Feb 27, 2017 | 10:59 AM
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LC F to debut in Tokyo this fall.
Currently, the 471-hp Lexus LC500 is the brand’s high-performance flagship. But we’ve learned that Lexus is planning more. Set to make its debut at the Tokyo auto show in October is an ultra-high-performance LC F that will feature a new twin-turbocharged 4.0-liter V-8 punching out a potent 600 horsepower.

According to our source at Lexus, this high-performance powerplant is in essence two 8AR-type 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engines joined together at 90 degrees. The twin-turbo 4.0-liter V-8 also will find its way into the GS F—making 550 horsepower—but for the LC F it will be turned up to 600 horsepower, with 470 lb-ft of torque. As with the LC500, the F will use the company’s 10-speed automatic transmission.
The bold is mine, to emphasize my favorite part of this article...

http://blog.caranddriver.com/scoop-6...ing-this-fall/
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Old Feb 27, 2017 | 11:08 AM
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Wow, now that is some news. Is this confirmed or just speculation. This is the first I have heard of the Lexus 4.0TT. Go throw this news in the LS thread as it has been 50 pages of whining that there is not TT V8 available and how "far behind the Germans" Lexus always rolls, looks like Lexus has the remedy.
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Old Feb 27, 2017 | 11:16 AM
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4.0TT
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Old Feb 27, 2017 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by situman
Most likely wont be a GS in the future. It really needs to grow in size, but then it will approach LS territory. The current GS is cramped. The IS will definitely grow in size and it will make the GS even more irrelevant so the GS has to grow in size but its being squeezed at the top by the LS. Maybe this will be sort of a short wheelbase LS if there is a next Gen
I think Lexus just gave the GS some room to grow in size by making the new LS a LWB only model
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Old Feb 27, 2017 | 07:55 PM
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5.0 V8 might be done after 2018 MY.

Hopefully the new TT V8 will be a monster, they need to put it in RCF as well.
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Old Feb 27, 2017 | 09:03 PM
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that is very interesting news, awesome! interesting that the gsf and the lcf will be tuned differently
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Originally Posted by rominl
that is very interesting news, awesome! interesting that the gsf and the lcf will be tuned differently
oh come on H, you and I both knew a V8 was coming. However it is a lot sooner than I anticipated .

Wonder when the The LS 500 powertrain will replace the LC 500 one?
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I could see lexus replacing the 5.0 v8 in the lc500 with the new ls v6tt. so v6tt and v8tt
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Originally Posted by rominl
that is very interesting news, awesome! interesting that the gsf and the lcf will be tuned differently
LCF is flagship and they will charge a lot more for it than GSF .........
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
oh come on H, you and I both knew a V8 was coming. However it is a lot sooner than I anticipated .

Wonder when the The LS 500 powertrain will replace the LC 500 one?
All of you guys with the inside-info just wanted to see us whine, squirm, and throw a tantrum about having no V8
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
oh come on H, you and I both knew a V8 was coming. However it is a lot sooner than I anticipated .

Wonder when the The LS 500 powertrain will replace the LC 500 one?
haha knowing it would come doesn't mean it's not exciting. i agree it's sooner than i thought BUT to be very frank and honest, i think lexus is really late to the game. there is really no excuse

i really think next year they will switch the lc500 out to the ttv6. so i really think the first batch of LC will be so worth it. but lexus will also have a case to make, the lc500 now has 467hp, but when they replace it the new setup will "only" have 400 or so hp. not saying the car will be slower but a lot of buyers will look at the numbers and ask why

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LCF is flagship and they will charge a lot more for it than GSF .........
of course, the lc500 is already more expensive than the gsf. still think it's a bit surprising,
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Old Feb 28, 2017 | 03:10 PM
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Personally I think it would be a mistake for Lexus to pull the 5.0 V8 NA until they are ready with the 4.0 V8 tt in a guise that isn't performance orientated, like in the same HP range as the NA: 475 HP.

Replacing it with a 6 mill at that many less HP, regardless if it "performs" the same, will just look funny and I agree, people will ask why.

And frankly, if they do make a non-sport V8 tt, there's really no need for that V6 to even migrate here. By all accounts, this is a low volume vehicle, even more so than the LS.

Having the V8 tt at 475 HP and the F at 600 HP would be enough for this vehicle. But I do think the LS can and should support more engine choices.

But again there's nothing wrong with offering the same engine lineup across these companion flagships.
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Originally Posted by rominl
haha knowing it would come doesn't mean it's not exciting. i agree it's sooner than i thought BUT to be very frank and honest, i think lexus is really late to the game. there is really no excuse

i really think next year they will switch the lc500 out to the ttv6. so i really think the first batch of LC will be so worth it. but lexus will also have a case to make, the lc500 now has 467hp, but when they replace it the new setup will "only" have 400 or so hp. not saying the car will be slower but a lot of buyers will look at the numbers and ask why



of course, the lc500 is already more expensive than the gsf. still think it's a bit surprising,
TTV6 as entry level and tune it to 450hp. V8TT as engine option close to 500-525hp perhaps. LCF with around 600hp from the same V8TT. Although I could see them keeping the 5L V8 around for 1 more year.
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