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Respectfully, you're wrong on two counts. First, engineering-degree or not, you can't get around the laws of physics. Drive belts in a CVT, no matter how well they are designed or how durable the materials, take a lot of stress, enduring not only the engine's torque but the whole weight of the vehicle as well, upon acceleration.
All transmissions -- regardless of design -- are under a lot of stress due to engine torque and vehicle weight upon acceleration.
Originally Posted by mmarshall
It's not just us here on Car Chat, Jill. You're seeing much the same reaction from other non-CL Toyota and Lexus forums as well. It may be a good car underneath the skin, but that grille is indeed going to be controversial.
Your slip -- oops, I meant your anti-Toyota bias -- is showing again. Why must you argue against Toyota stying every chance you get?
I like it. At least they are trying to get an identity for themselves with the corporate grill that appears so far on this one, the Stinger, and the Sportage.
Hope the back end isn't anything like the Stinger!
I like it. At least they are trying to get an identity for themselves with the corporate grill that appears so far on this one, the Stinger, and the Sportage.
Hope the back end isn't anything like the Stinger!
I kinda see some Sportage in the back end, moreso than the Stinger anyway. It's got the light bar running across the rear in a similar way, anyway.
It is nice looking car, but it is interesting that it is missing some features standard on Corolla and Civic. Like LED headlights and auto brake system. You have to pay extra for those in Kia, and they used to be value kings... especially strange since this model is made to compete in USA specifically.
Sharp looking car although as already pointed out, the cheap tacked on triangle lights at the bottom of the rear are just silly. There are other pics online and this car looks an awful lot like the current generation Jetta, so it's obvious the Audi influence at Kia is taking hold. The previous Forte wasn't that bad a car for styling either.
Sharp looking car although as already pointed out, the cheap tacked on triangle lights at the bottom of the rear are just silly. There are other pics online and this car looks an awful lot like the current generation Jetta, so it's obvious the Audi influence at Kia is taking hold. The previous Forte wasn't that bad a car for styling either.
Didn’t see the triangles till now. But yeah, tacky for sure.
You are right. It looks nice. But not one comment all day is saying something IMO. Compared to the Avalon thread where you need a flame suit if you say you like it.
Agreed, it does say something when no one says anything. But I think there are two reasons for that. 1) The car is mildly styled, agreeable, and not controversial. So there will be less, "omg, this thing looks terrible" replies, which add up fast.
2) The Avalon, along with it's controversial styling, is a Toyota. And this being a Toyota-fan-biased site, is going to gain a lot more commenting.
Not a bad looking car, except why do auto makers insist on making the combo lamps so large? Is it just me that thinks they look ridiculous? The redesign will look like this, probably.
LOL! This pic, along with the grille extended up over the hood on the Avalon photoshop pic, are the funniest things I've seen in ages!
I kinda see some Sportage in the back end, moreso than the Stinger anyway. It's got the light bar running across the rear in a similar way, anyway.
Thanks for posting this.... I like the back end too - it is miles better looking than the Stinger back end.
I liked the original Forte very much, then they sorta lost their way, and I like this one again.