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Old Dec 6, 2017 | 06:03 PM
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I bought a 2001 jeep cherokee for my winter vehicle because I live in upstate NY and I *****en hate it. It always brakes and is just like....a giant pile of automotive feces. Before someone says I neglect the jeep I went through and flushed all fluids, did thermostat and housing gasket, valve cover gasket, front pinion seal, all of the u joints the yoke and ball for the rear of the front drive shaft near the transfer case, air filter, brakes, a.c. delete plate....that is all I can think of now but I am positive I have done more. Pics of the jeep will be posted below.
Led headlight install
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When i first purchased the jeep that is how it looked.
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Old Dec 6, 2017 | 06:41 PM
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I *****en hate it. It always brakes and is just like....a giant pile of automotive feces.
No offense, but I'm not sure just what you are trying to accomplish with this post. If you hate this vehicle's road-manners, why did you buy it?......I assume that you test-drove it before writing the check. It's also obvious, by the high stance and wheel-wells, that either you or someone else did major revisions to the suspension and underpinnings.....which alters the vehicle's road-manners (and perhaps stability) from factory settings. So, you can't blame the factory for that.

Last, before you completely pan this vehicle, consider that it was in production for some 17 years.....from 1984 to 2001. During that period, demand for it was huge...there were hundreds of thousands (perhaps millions) of satisfied owners. It almost single-handedly shaped the affordable modern passenger-carrying SUV market, and led to the even more successful Grand Cherokee.

Does any one else have a jeep story they want to share?
I've never actually owned one, but I've reviewed, sampled and test-drove several versions of the (current-generation) Jeep Grand Cherokee, and have come away quite impressed with each one. I actually liked the initial 2011 version more than the ones built the last few years....seems like the suspension was slightly softer and more comfortable, and the wood-tone trim inside richer-looking, but that could have just been the individual suspension package. My favorite of all Jeep interiors was also the one on the original (2011) version of the Grand Cherokee Overland.



One thing I think Jeep should be doing, though, and isn't, is offering full-time 4WD/AWD on the Wrangler. I'll stand corrected if I'm wrong, but, as I understand it, even after all these years, Jeep still insists on offering only the part-time Command-Trac and Rock-Trac 4WD systems with the manual transfer-case. Other Jeep models offer the On-Demand or Full-Time systems with the electronic transfer-cases...they used to call it Selec-Trac and Quadra-Trac, but now, I think, have different names. But the Wrangler, to my knowledge, has never gotten that option, and I see little excuse for it except cost-cutting, and the fact that the part-time systems seem to do OK off-road, where Wranglers, unlike many SUVs the days. spend a significant part of their time.

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Lol. Mike, you realize the guy's in troll territory and having some fun. OP, is that your Lexus LS430 in the car shelter? Looks like an 05/06.
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Lol. Mike, you realize the guy's in troll territory and having some fun. OP, is that your Lexus LS430 in the car shelter? Looks like an 05/06.
Yah man that's mine and good eye it's an 05 that car is my baby it has a ton of mods done to it with more to come.
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Lol. Mike, you realize the guy's in troll territory and having some fun. OP, is that your Lexus LS430 in the car shelter? Looks like an 05/06.
I don't play games with people. I'm here to talk cars. Though I'll occasionally make a joke or pun myself if the occasion arises, when someone on an auto forum asks a question, I usually take them seriously. If they are playing games, that's on them, not me.
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No offense, but I'm not sure just what you are trying to accomplish with this post. If you hate this vehicle's road-manners, why did you buy it?......I assume that you test-drove it before writing the check. It's also obvious, by the high stance and wheel-wells, that either you or someone else did major revisions to the suspension and underpinnings.....which alters the vehicle's road-manners (and perhaps stability) from factory settings. So, you can't blame the factory for that.

Last, before you completely pan this vehicle, consider that it was in production for some 17 years.....from 1984 to 2001. During that period, demand for it was huge...there were hundreds of thousands (perhaps millions) of satisfied owners. It almost single-handedly shaped the affordable modern passenger-carrying SUV market, and led to the even more successful Grand Cherokee.



I've never actually owned one, but I've reviewed, sampled and test-drove several versions of the (current-generation) Jeep Grand Cherokee, and have come away quite impressed with each one. I actually liked the initial 2011 version more than the ones built the last few years....seems like the suspension was slightly softer and more comfortable, and the wood-tone trim inside richer-looking, but that could have just been the individual suspension package. My favorite of all Jeep interiors was also the one on the original (2011) version of the Grand Cherokee Overland.



One thing I think Jeep should be doing, though, and isn't, is offering full-time 4WD/AWD on the Wrangler. I'll stand corrected if I'm wrong, but, as I understand it, even after all these years, Jeep still insists on offering only the part-time Command-Trac and Rock-Trac 4WD systems with the manual transfer-case. Other Jeep models offer the On-Demand or Full-Time systems with the electronic transfer-cases...they used to call it Selec-Trac and Quadra-Trac, but now, I think, have different names. But the Wrangler, to my knowledge, has never gotten that option, and I see little excuse for it except cost-cutting, and the fact that the part-time systems seem to do OK off-road, where Wranglers, unlike many SUVs the days. spend a significant part of their time.
I was just complaining to complain man that's all I got the jeep for $500 that's why I bought, I was hoping someone else would pitch in with there jeep from hell story, they are not very reliable vehicles at all in my opinion. It is my first and last dodge chrysler product hahaha

It seems you have a very fast knowledge of jeeps far more than I do i was super impressed reading your post.

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I was just complaining to complain man that's all I got the jeep for $500 that's why I bought, I was hoping someone else would pitch in with there jeep from hell story, they are not very reliable vehicles at all in my opinion. It is my first and last dodge chrysler product hahaha
In that case, sounds like you got what you paid for LOL.
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In that case, sounds like you got what you paid for LOL.
Ohhh yah and then some it's always fun buying a previously modded vehicle and seeing how people cobb things together today i found a tennis ball sized hole in the firewall that was there for no reason whatsoever hahs
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When I was a kid my parents had two Jeeps (mid 90's). Dad had a tan beige Cherokee, and mom had a black cherry Grand Cherokee Laredo V8. Dad's had issues with the 4WD and we didn't have it long. Mom's had transmission issues and replaced the tranny once. But we loved the JGC a lot.
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When you buy a crappy old $500 car you get a crappy old $500 car lol
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Originally Posted by 05ls430518
I bought a 2001 jeep cherokee for my winter vehicle because I live in upstate NY and I *****en hate it. It always brakes and is just like....a giant pile of automotive feces. Before someone says I neglect the jeep I went through and flushed all fluids, did thermostat and housing gasket, valve cover gasket, front pinion seal, all of the u joints the yoke and ball for the rear of the front drive shaft near the transfer case, air filter, brakes, a.c. delete plate....that is all I can think of now but I am positive I have done more.

Does any one else have a jeep story they want to share?
would be nice to know how many miles are on it?

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Originally Posted by 05ls430518
Yah man that's mine and good eye it's an 05 that car is my baby it has a ton of mods done to it with more to come.
You'll have to put up some pics of that one too. I actually like these tough old buzzards (that generation of the Cherokee platform - stove pot six). Unstoppable in winter. Lots of dollars to keep fixing and crude sounds from that inline motor. Tough as concrete nails.

Save the Lexus for highway trips and go off road with the Jeep. The Grand Cherokee got too fancy to be off roading. 4Runner is the alternative.
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The Grand Cherokee got too fancy to be off roading. 4Runner is the alternative.
Agreed that the 4Runner might be better suited overall, but the JGC (at least as of last year) still has an official Trail-Rating from Jeep, which means it has to be able to get over the notorious Rubicon Trail in one piece LOL.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Agreed that the 4Runner might be better suited overall, but the JGC (at least as of last year) still has an official Trail-Rating from Jeep, which means it has to be able to get over the notorious Rubicon Trail in one piece LOL.
Yep. Very true. But I dare any $50K JGC owner to take his leased/owned vehicle off road unless: he's willing to take the $$ hit on damaging it. It's about image, I guess. At least a beater Jeep Cherokee is there for wailing on and you forget about any fancy lease payments and depreciation.
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Check out the Jeep forums, plenty of people do.
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