Maintenance
I changed my drive belt, timing belt, water pump, both pulleys, thermostat along with differential oil, transmission oil at 113k..
I was told you can go up to 140k, but I dont like to wait or risk. Unlike me, most people like to keep there cars for a VERY long time. I like to change my car as soon as it gets to around 130to 140k and jump in a lower mileage one. So If you plan on keeping this car, by changing this stuff in a shorter time period, I find it increases the life in long term of a vehicle.. I mean for example newer oil allows moving parts to run more smoothly even though that oil can be used for alot longer, if you dont want your engine working harder you change the oil quicker.. I look at it that way. but again if your gonna do it, do the whole thing and the car will run very smoothy, i noticed a huge difference in mine
I dont know why they would say Differential repair? is it broken? or does it just need the oil changed? when you get the whole timing belt done I would say get the tranny and differential oil changed so everything is new and runs smooth together, that way anything older wont wear your newer parts.
Hope that helps,
Goodluck
I was told you can go up to 140k, but I dont like to wait or risk. Unlike me, most people like to keep there cars for a VERY long time. I like to change my car as soon as it gets to around 130to 140k and jump in a lower mileage one. So If you plan on keeping this car, by changing this stuff in a shorter time period, I find it increases the life in long term of a vehicle.. I mean for example newer oil allows moving parts to run more smoothly even though that oil can be used for alot longer, if you dont want your engine working harder you change the oil quicker.. I look at it that way. but again if your gonna do it, do the whole thing and the car will run very smoothy, i noticed a huge difference in mine

I dont know why they would say Differential repair? is it broken? or does it just need the oil changed? when you get the whole timing belt done I would say get the tranny and differential oil changed so everything is new and runs smooth together, that way anything older wont wear your newer parts.
Hope that helps,
Goodluck
Last edited by 416tt; Sep 19, 2013 at 07:56 AM.

You have got me there!
As a kid whenever my mother would refer to a far away place it was always "Like driving to Timbuktu". Old family sayings live on.
Needless to say, you are correct that there are no Lexus dealerships in Timbuktu.
There was mention of a reporter driving to Timbuktu in a Land Cruiser owned by a Mali resident from another town (I think the same interference engine as is in the SC430).
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Afric...ahead-for-Mali
However, given that the standard day in Timbuktu, Mali includes dodging bullets, I think changing a timing belt is the least of their worries.
How blessed we are that we have the time to worry about timing belts.
SC43052,
Since were talking about Timbuktu and because you said you had never heard of a timing belt breaking on its own nor anyone else you had met had heard of it per your quote below:
"There might have been that 1 in 1000 case in Timbuktu where the belt broke on its own, but I have never heard of it, and no one I have ever met has. "Always" fits perfectly as a rule of thumb in this particular case."
Here is an example of 1 in 1000 in the US, but not Timbuktu, where the belt broke on it's own at 40k miles, but was on the engine over recommended time frame:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sc-...ggestions.html
Feel free to contact the individual to verify that the belt broke on it's own without failure of any component it interfaced with causing the break.
PS my quote of "My last post on this topic that we agree to disagree upon", should have read "this is my second to last post on this topic...."
Since were talking about Timbuktu and because you said you had never heard of a timing belt breaking on its own nor anyone else you had met had heard of it per your quote below:
"There might have been that 1 in 1000 case in Timbuktu where the belt broke on its own, but I have never heard of it, and no one I have ever met has. "Always" fits perfectly as a rule of thumb in this particular case."
Here is an example of 1 in 1000 in the US, but not Timbuktu, where the belt broke on it's own at 40k miles, but was on the engine over recommended time frame:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sc-...ggestions.html
Feel free to contact the individual to verify that the belt broke on it's own without failure of any component it interfaced with causing the break.
PS my quote of "My last post on this topic that we agree to disagree upon", should have read "this is my second to last post on this topic...."
Last edited by sixonemale; Sep 20, 2013 at 06:21 AM.
SC43052,
Since were talking about Timbuktu and because you said you had never heard of a timing belt breaking on its own nor anyone else you had met had heard of it per your quote below:
"There might have been that 1 in 1000 case in Timbuktu where the belt broke on its own, but I have never heard of it, and no one I have ever met has. "Always" fits perfectly as a rule of thumb in this particular case."
Here is an example of 1 in 1000 in the US, but not Timbuktu, where the belt broke on it's own at 40k miles, but was on the engine over recommended time frame:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sc-...ggestions.html
Feel free to contact the individual to verify that the belt broke on it's own without failure of any component it interfaced with causing the break.
PS my quote of "My last post on this topic that we agree to disagree upon", should have read "this is my second to last post on this topic...."
Since were talking about Timbuktu and because you said you had never heard of a timing belt breaking on its own nor anyone else you had met had heard of it per your quote below:
"There might have been that 1 in 1000 case in Timbuktu where the belt broke on its own, but I have never heard of it, and no one I have ever met has. "Always" fits perfectly as a rule of thumb in this particular case."
Here is an example of 1 in 1000 in the US, but not Timbuktu, where the belt broke on it's own at 40k miles, but was on the engine over recommended time frame:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sc-...ggestions.html
Feel free to contact the individual to verify that the belt broke on it's own without failure of any component it interfaced with causing the break.
PS my quote of "My last post on this topic that we agree to disagree upon", should have read "this is my second to last post on this topic...."

You are kidding me right?
The guy said the belt just snapped, but he certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of the timing belt and the interaction with the other components if he questioned whether $25K is a reasonable charge for a valve job. The guy is clueless.
I would bet 10 to 1 the dealership never pulled the engine apart. The symptoms of a broken timing belt and crashed valves are quite apparent without opening the engine. And the customer never gave the go ahead to the dealer to repair or replace the engine. The dealer didn't need to open the engine to tell what happened and they certainly wouldn't expend that kind of labor to open the engine to confirm what they already know, hoping the customer would decide to let them do the work. If they didn't open the engine how could the dealer, the customer or anyone know the mode of failure (i.e...what broke first)?
Even if the dealership did open the engine they would rarely bring a customer into the shop to show them the engine, as 999 out of 1000 customers, him included, wouldn't know what they were looking at. He doesn't mention seeing the engine or talking with a mechanic, or the mechanic having taken the time to differentiate a seized water pump from just a broken belt and commented upon it. The customer would have dealt with the SA, and generally speaking they don't know spit.
And there would be no reason the mechanic would note the mode of failure on the shop notes beyond "broken timing belt" regardless of how it broke.
You tell me to contact this guy and he will verify this information. If you are so sure, you go ahead and PM him and ask him to contact me. By asking him three or four questions I will know if he even understands the issue.
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