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Old 10-04-11, 03:05 PM
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Default Transmission drain & fill experience

Today I used a transfer pump to remove transmission fluid from my '02 SC through the dipstick tube. The dipstick had shown a little over the full mark prior to draining. I removed over 3 quarts before it sucked dry. All my information says it's 1.9 quarts to refill when draining from the drain plug and re-filling but I am wondering if anyone's experience is different when withdrawing the fluid with a pump. After I put back 1.9 quarts it's measuring very low. This is measured with the engine running (hot), and after shifting through the ranges, with the car is level. What do you think might be causing the discrepancy? Thanks for any ideas.
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well, you took out 3, shouldn't you put back 3?

just sayin..
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when I did my G35 it was simply drain and fill ( G35 had a drain plug and refill access, made things much easier! )

I also did this for my wife's 06 Odyssey, drain and fill back what I drained. (This too, had a drain plug and refill access)

Make sure to replace with OEM fluids! (I've read this everywhere)
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Total capacity for the 5sp transmission is 9.4 qts US (1.9 Qts for drain and refill) ... the proper way to measure it with the dipstick is described in the PDF attached to this thread https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sc-...questions.html

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Originally Posted by VVTiBob
Total capacity for the 5sp transmission is 9.4 qts US (1.9 Qts for drain and refill) ... the proper way to measure it with the dipstick is described in the PDF attached to this thread https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sc-...questions.html
Thanks, Bob. I've got the manual and I know the capacities but I'm surprised at the amount I was able to remove and how the 1.9 qt I replaced didn't get me back in the hot range on the dipstick. I am tempted to drive it a bit and get it up to temp again to re-check. If it's still low I suppose I could add a few tenths of a quart and then see where it sits. It's easy enough to get it back out.
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Originally Posted by GR6RR
well, you took out 3, shouldn't you put back 3?

just sayin..
Yeah, I'm just trying to be smarter than the car...
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I did exactly the same and sucked out a little less than 2 qts. I would say your tranny fluid was overfilled.
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Good point! Was the hot level checked before you started?
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Originally Posted by VVTiBob
Good point! Was the hot level checked before you started?
As noted in my original post it did appear to be slightly overfilled - yes, checked hot using the right procedure. I've repeated the pump-out / refill cycle 4 times now and each time I've checked the ATF level after putting in 1.9 quarts. Each time it measures just at or below the lower end of the OK range when the engine/trans is hot.

Clearly there was a lot more ATF in there originally than there is now. I plan to add what it takes to get in the middle of the dipstick marks and leave it alone. The car runs and shifts fine with the level as it is (a tick low) as well as when it was over-filled a bit.

For those curious about the methodology of pumping out the ATF sump, I used an el-cheapo plastic Harbor Freight transfer pump. I think it was less than $5 on sale. It's not exactly a precision instrument but it worked OK. Each cycle to remove and replace 2 quarts took about 10 minutes and there's practically zero cleanup.
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Pretty much like drain and fill.
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Originally Posted by mandyfig
Pretty much like drain and fill.
Yes, in tems of results. Procedurally you don't need to lift the car which was significant to me because it takes 4 evacuate / fill passes to get 60% new fluid. Don't get me wrong - I do like to get under the car occasionally but didn't have a need for oil / filter change this time around.
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This is what my tranny fluid look like. The right side bottle was jet black similar to the colour of Coke or black coffee.

The fluid was SUPPOSE to be done by a Lexus dealer, ie there is a stamp in the book at about 6000km ago before I took delivery of the car.

Doesn't look like its been ever changed. the oil smells pretty bad and was really disappointed that Lexus really ripped off the previous owner as the car was service at the same place from new.

I flush over 18 litres of tranny fluid to make sure that its nice and clean.

She shifts silky smooth now.
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Old 10-08-11, 04:52 AM
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It is a good thing you checked it out quick. Nice car cover.

Hence I do drain and fill every other oil change.
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mandy you drain and fill your tranny fluid every other oil change? wow
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Yes. I have done the oil twice since getting the car. But have drained and filled 3x. Moving forward every other oli change.

The tranny fluid is looking good now.


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