yet another clue to the rough idle
First, let me say that I did notice several posts that had similar symptoms but different problems. There are several which I believe have the same problem as my car.
My car's vitals:
'92 SC300, 93k miles. Had all routine services done on time. Has K&N cone intake w/ cold-air inlet along w/ dyno-tuned Apexi SAFC.
Here are my symptoms
When car has been operating in normal to hot temps (more prevalent in hot temps), idle stumbles to less the 600 rpm and eventually stalls. This happens when foot is off the accelerator and the throttle position should be zero. SO this could happen when your foot is on the brake pedal at a stoplight, or when you are coasting on the highway, whenever you take your foot off the accelerator. This occurs without the AC on. Turning the AC on bumps up the RPM, but essentially masks the problem. Sometimes you can temporarily alieve the symptoms while sitting in traffic by going into Neutral and stabbing the accelerator to move the throttlebody until it returns to 0% closed position when you take your foot off the accel pedal).
When this rough idle and stumbling occurs, I do notice on my Apexi SAFC that everytime the throttle position value starts to wander above the zero % value - w/ the foot off the accelerator! Essentially, the car thinks that the throttle plate is open (when it really is not since your foot is off the accel) and adds too much fuel to eventually stall the engine. I am fairly certain of this.
I am hoping that this little bit of info will add some help in diagnosing this common problem.
What I don't understand, and this is where I need your help on, is what causes this? I've already cleaned the throttle body numerous times. The last time it happened, I immediately checked the throttlebody and it was very clean.
Is it the Idle control valve?
What is the difference between the ICV and the IAC?
Vacuum leak? I replaced about 95% of the hoses w/ aftermarket silicone stuff. Some weren't the exact same size, but I thought it was close enough. Am I wrong? Is this a no-no?
The only hoses I could not get at were the ones underneath the throttle body, those that you cannot reach unless you took the tb off. hmmmm
I haven't seen any recent posts on this. Not sure if someone found the solution or just let the issue die. If you've found your solution, pls post.
THANX in advance!
Last edited by mdfdsc300; Dec 10, 2002 at 04:49 PM.
DJL
I've got the shop manual, can you point me to where I can find the procedure?
P>S> Had plugs done at earlier service so thats why he didn't suggest them.
Last edited by mhawk; Feb 4, 2003 at 05:22 AM.



