Wheel lift concepts - ideas and suggestions welcomed
02-27-10, 06:50 PM
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here's a pic of a person who did something similar with a truck and pneumatic ram:
He wanted a method of keeping the car more stable in the corners, but I will only be activating the system when i'm going up driveways. The rest of the time the valve will be open and allow for free travel, with very minimal damping effects.
He wanted a method of keeping the car more stable in the corners, but I will only be activating the system when i'm going up driveways. The rest of the time the valve will be open and allow for free travel, with very minimal damping effects.
02-27-10, 09:20 PM
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02-28-10, 08:10 AM
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here's a pic of a person who did something similar with a truck and pneumatic ram:
He wanted a method of keeping the car more stable in the corners, but I will only be activating the system when i'm going up driveways. The rest of the time the valve will be open and allow for free travel, with very minimal damping effects.
He wanted a method of keeping the car more stable in the corners, but I will only be activating the system when i'm going up driveways. The rest of the time the valve will be open and allow for free travel, with very minimal damping effects.
02-28-10, 08:28 AM
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I plan on mine being tiny and compact, everyone will have to wait for the unveil. I really like the concept. Bags or cans are great but the ride sucks, this will allow you to have a performace/comfort ride on coilovers, go really low, and let me lift the front to get in my drive. 
02-28-10, 09:16 AM
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i think it's doable. you're going to have to have it pushing down on the upper control arm. then a lot of work to reinforce the inner fender so make sure the ram doesn't launch through it.
this can't be driven any distance w/ the ram extended. so it's going to be only up for slow approaches on speed bumps, ramps, etc.
how are you going to weather proof everything? i assume you'll need a powered pump pushing the oil. how strong would that pump be? any moisture in the oil lines will also cause the system to freeze up.
also over extension...would that cause issues with springs jumping out of the seats or shifting of the springs since you're virtually unloading it?
actually come to think of it...i think it's more efficient if you use a scissor jack (or something similar) w/ a 12v motor spinning it. this reduces the oil issue and freezing. just put a boot over the scissor thread and motor and you're good to go.
it'll be a little slower but depending on how fast the motor spins and what gear reduction you use it might work.
not saying it will work...but another idea for you...
http://www.amazon.com/Electric-Sciss.../dp/B000P0RP0I
this can't be driven any distance w/ the ram extended. so it's going to be only up for slow approaches on speed bumps, ramps, etc.
how are you going to weather proof everything? i assume you'll need a powered pump pushing the oil. how strong would that pump be? any moisture in the oil lines will also cause the system to freeze up.
also over extension...would that cause issues with springs jumping out of the seats or shifting of the springs since you're virtually unloading it?
actually come to think of it...i think it's more efficient if you use a scissor jack (or something similar) w/ a 12v motor spinning it. this reduces the oil issue and freezing. just put a boot over the scissor thread and motor and you're good to go.
it'll be a little slower but depending on how fast the motor spins and what gear reduction you use it might work.
not saying it will work...but another idea for you...
http://www.amazon.com/Electric-Sciss.../dp/B000P0RP0I
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02-28-10, 09:25 AM
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i think it's doable. you're going to have to have it pushing down on the upper control arm. then a lot of work to reinforce the inner fender so make sure the ram doesn't launch through it.
this can't be driven any distance w/ the ram extended. so it's going to be only up for slow approaches on speed bumps, ramps, etc.
how are you going to weather proof everything? i assume you'll need a powered pump pushing the oil. how strong would that pump be? any moisture in the oil lines will also cause the system to freeze up.
also over extension...would that cause issues with springs jumping out of the seats or shifting of the springs since you're virtually unloading it?
this can't be driven any distance w/ the ram extended. so it's going to be only up for slow approaches on speed bumps, ramps, etc.
how are you going to weather proof everything? i assume you'll need a powered pump pushing the oil. how strong would that pump be? any moisture in the oil lines will also cause the system to freeze up.
also over extension...would that cause issues with springs jumping out of the seats or shifting of the springs since you're virtually unloading it?
I'll weatherproof everything by putting boots on the ram and seeing how it fares. I'll make an enclosure as well, it won't be that hard.
I'm gonna go measure the clearance.
I don't think overextension will be an issue if I match the length of the throw on the ram. It will be on hinges so it can more freely and not bend the ram as it's extending.
I also think I'll be pushing on the lower control arm, as it's made of steel and less susceptible to cracking. than the aluminum upper control arm.
02-28-10, 09:31 AM
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I can tether it to the frame rail and I can use pneumatic operation, so I can just get a cheap compressor and airtank and control it via an electronic valve.
I'll weatherproof everything by putting boots on the ram and seeing how it fares. I'll make an enclosure as well, it won't be that hard.
I'm gonna go measure the clearance.
I don't think overextension will be an issue if I match the length of the throw on the ram. It will be on hinges so it can more freely and not bend the ram as it's extending.
I also think I'll be pushing on the lower control arm, as it's made of steel and less susceptible to cracking. than the aluminum upper control arm.
I'll weatherproof everything by putting boots on the ram and seeing how it fares. I'll make an enclosure as well, it won't be that hard.
I'm gonna go measure the clearance.
I don't think overextension will be an issue if I match the length of the throw on the ram. It will be on hinges so it can more freely and not bend the ram as it's extending.
I also think I'll be pushing on the lower control arm, as it's made of steel and less susceptible to cracking. than the aluminum upper control arm.
that's ideal to hit the lower arm..but then your ram must cross over all the suspension, steering and brake components to even reach the lower arm. you're better off clamping a steel pad on the upper alum arm to spread out the load. i mean you're not going far with it up...maybe 10ft max and not fast either..right?
also when retracted where are you going to put that ram? the SC fenders are not that high.
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anymore news on this? also I have a '69 Chevy C10 with air ride and theres no problems in the winter or anything. You just have to make sure to run a water trap/inline oiler like this SMC one
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