Originally Posted by Brendon

Wow a lot of negative opinion of the stock seats. Are they really that bad? Mine feel so soft and cushiony. I love them; I just don't need the extra weight the power and heating puts on. I've read online that for the 97+, the seats were softer. Is that true? I'll have to ride in a pre-97 to feel how hard the older ones were. Anyways, how much does the traction control and ABS weigh?

BTW, if the sunroof does weigh 60-70 lbs, that's alot! Since removing my spare tire (which is just 50 lbs), my car feels much more agile around town. Yeah, on the highways I don't notice much difference, but from the stoplights, it feels much more responsive. The same thing when I keep my tank below 1/2 full. Every 50 or so lbs you drop, the car's 0-60 improves by a tenth, at least thats what my calculations tell me.

Originally Posted by over40driv

Not to mention the advantage of the high center of gravity from that weight loss. Something else, my headliner is in perfect cond. and a new headliner from Lexus if you remove the sunroof, is like$250.00, not installed. If you wanted to be hardcore you could leave out the headliner, wouldnt look to good. If someone fabbed a c.f. panel for the roof, maybe it could be extended to bolt to the orig. sunroof mounts and would also be a roof brace.

Originally Posted by Gunnar

Brendon, go sit in a MKIV Supra seat and you'll see how much stock (at least 92-96) seats suck.

Originally Posted by Brendon

Wow a lot of negative opinion of the stock seats. Are they really that bad? Mine feel so soft and cushiony. I love them; I just don't need the extra weight the power and heating puts on. I've read online that for the 97+, the seats were softer. Is that true? I'll have to ride in a pre-97 to feel how hard the older ones were. Anyways, how much does the traction control and ABS weigh?