Car Vandalized....Pics inside
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From: Arizona
Originally Posted by mikeloc24
I take it you do not own a gun?
On that note since at least knife was used... is there a case that his life was in danger if he had own a gun and used it? I would not take chances in something like that.
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From: Arizona
Originally Posted by lfrers
Hmmm... Not to be off topic but given the can of worms you will open if you shoot someone, even in self defense, I recommend to everyone who carries a firearm to switch to a Tazer instead. I'm in law enforcement and I can tell you that even if I shoot someone on the job I’m in for a world of scrutiny and stress afterwards. Of course I live in Cali so I’m in a different boat than most of you. Weather they live or die is irrelevant; actually you’re probably better off legally if they die after you shoot them. To say nothing of potentially going to jail or at the very least loose your house to the assailant or their family. The Tazer that shoots the darts will practically incapacitate a bull. 
And barely leave a mark when you pull out the darts. Cost is $500.00 and you can get a permit as a private citizen, I’m pretty sure. Of course if the dude throws a crowbar at you.... well.... what can you do? Duck I guess.
And barely leave a mark when you pull out the darts. Cost is $500.00 and you can get a permit as a private citizen, I’m pretty sure. Of course if the dude throws a crowbar at you.... well.... what can you do? Duck I guess.I agree but at such situations Im not concerned about the vehicle but rather be concerned about life being endangered. If someone pulls a knife and attacks .. wouldnt it be unsafe to assume anything else but that the thug is trying to kill the victim here?
as an officer in duty if someone pulls a knife and attacks you, well I guess you now have the means to use non lethal force.
Originally Posted by Inabj2
I agree but at such situations Im not concerned about the vehicle but rather be concerned about life being endangered. If someone pulls a knife and attacks .. wouldnt it be unsafe to assume anything else but that the thug is trying to kill the victim here?
as an officer in duty if someone pulls a knife and attacks you, well I guess you now have the means to use non lethal force.
as an officer in duty if someone pulls a knife and attacks you, well I guess you now have the means to use non lethal force.
I would much quicker back down from a knife tha a gun. As far as defending myself - I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
Back on topic - Did you decide on a color yet? I still vote OEM RED!!!! :-D
Back on topic - Did you decide on a color yet? I still vote OEM RED!!!! :-D
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From: Arizona
Originally Posted by xknowonex
Realistically, if someone attacks you with a knife and you bust out a gun, I think the knife attacker would prudently back down
But then again there could be exceptions like maybe the guy is crazed and all beefed up on pcp.
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From: Tennessee
Originally Posted by laxdude362
Yup I am sticking with red.
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Yeah man I will let you know. I am having it towed to the shop on Friday. My friend Shane (616rwhp sc300) is refreshing engine (replacing everything that needs to be changed timing belt, water pump, valve stem seals etc.), port and polished, new clutch, turbo kit, all the body panels,glass fixed, suspension fixed, and the car is getting repainted red. I already have my bronze TT rims on and I will be getting them repainted as well with my lexus centercaps the same color. If you want any work done your car he is the guy to do it. At min. it will take about 3 weeks ideally, max. it will take around 6 weeks. I can't wait!! 
PM your number man I don't have it anymore.
PM your number man I don't have it anymore.
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Wow that sounds awesome. I'll probably be buying an early 90's LS at the start of the summer, and hopefully finding an SC I can actually enjoy instead of working on all the time. I guess we're both in the same situation. LMK how it turns out!!!!
(i need a new clutch too!!, how much would it be for him to install one?)
(i need a new clutch too!!, how much would it be for him to install one?)
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From: CA
just happened by this thread. Sorry to hear bout your car there totally sucks. TN sure is a crazy place, I remember being there for work and I went to a KFC that had a sign posted that said "please leave your hand guns outside"...
On that note, I understand that you are rightfully upset about the damage to your car, but I dont agree with some of the posts encouraging or endorsing the carrying of weapons, especially lethal ones.
For those of you who "wish" or "want" to carry a gun, do you honestly plan to shoot to kill if someone smashes your window? (If this is a threadjack, I apologize in advance)
On that note, I understand that you are rightfully upset about the damage to your car, but I dont agree with some of the posts encouraging or endorsing the carrying of weapons, especially lethal ones.
For those of you who "wish" or "want" to carry a gun, do you honestly plan to shoot to kill if someone smashes your window? (If this is a threadjack, I apologize in advance)
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From: texas
Originally Posted by Ichigo
I understand that you are rightfully upset about the damage to your car, but I dont agree with some of the posts encouraging or endorsing the carrying of weapons, especially lethal ones.
For those of you who "wish" or "want" to carry a gun, do you honestly plan to shoot to kill if someone smashes your window?
2. IF YOU WERE ATTACKED LIKE THIS, WOULDN'T YOU WANT A GUN
IMO, you should have ran their stupid asses over with your car.
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When using force against an aggressor there are 3 things to consider:
* Who was the aggressor?
* Was the defendant's belief that self-defense was necessary a reasonable one?
* If so, was the force used by the defendant also reasonable?
I don't know about you, but if a bunch of guys were attacking me inside my car and one is stabbing the car with a knife I would think twice about shooting them, because another thing to consider is whether or not you could get away. If you could escape by driving away, shooting a man and killing him is going to get you in big trouble.
* Who was the aggressor?
* Was the defendant's belief that self-defense was necessary a reasonable one?
* If so, was the force used by the defendant also reasonable?
I don't know about you, but if a bunch of guys were attacking me inside my car and one is stabbing the car with a knife I would think twice about shooting them, because another thing to consider is whether or not you could get away. If you could escape by driving away, shooting a man and killing him is going to get you in big trouble.