Canards and Splitters
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Joined: Mar 2005
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From: England (not New)
Originally Posted by Idrewfelix
goodness. please i have a knock off, ROO i know you're an experienced car builder, but really, some v-speed kits arent as bad as you think.
I think splitters are alright, but canards are overdoing it. It may affect some corning stablization, but our cars are notorious for oversteer not understeer.
I think splitters are alright, but canards are overdoing it. It may affect some corning stablization, but our cars are notorious for oversteer not understeer.
Just to clear this up, our cars understerr naturally, not oversteer.
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From: The Shogun's Dojo
Originally Posted by JspecSC3
Im a starving 19 year old college student.
Personally I say get the kit, it may fit....it may not fit (most likely). But if it doesn't, then you'll learn from the experience in the end
Good luck and let us know how the project turns out.
Originally Posted by twizted
Some have fit wonderfly but most have not. Take a gamble i have one sitting in the garage dont know yet
PS Canards and Splitter are the S***. Way better then getting those ricey aluminum wings on an SC.
Driver
Joined: Jul 2005
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From: CA
Dude he's not getting the stuff to make you all happy. He's getting it for himself. There are times where "knock off" and "quality" actually are in the same sentence and used complimentary. I say, more power to you. If it looks good, it fits well, it's quality sizing and material, why not? Some of us don't have money to spill on our cars. But we have to satisfy our desires to make our cars look the way we want them. I hope your project goes well.
Lexus Test Driver
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From: ca
it's pretty common knowlege that as knockoff molds get used more and get older the fitment gets worse and worse. (your odds of getting a crappy fitting setup get higher and higher)
if you're dead set on having something now now now, go ahead and get the knockoff and learn your lesson with the fitment and quality of what you get. Beyond the whole counterfeiting issue here, there's a maturity issue...I've been building cars for many years and nowadays when I want something done, i want it done right. It's not a money issue as much as it is a patience issue. I could have probably had counterfeit fitted on my car, painted with wheels by now but I'm saving up and buying the authentic quality parts little by little. I'm not made of money more than any of you guys but i'm not going to throw my hard earned money away on cheap knockoff parts for my car. I'd rather rock it stock than put that trash on my car. Most of you guys that don't agree with this philosophy are simply impatient or are not concerned with quality when it comes to your cars. In the end, if it takes you twice as long to save up for the quality stuff and get it on your car, the end result will be much cleaner and you will be much happier with what you end up with.
if you're dead set on having something now now now, go ahead and get the knockoff and learn your lesson with the fitment and quality of what you get. Beyond the whole counterfeiting issue here, there's a maturity issue...I've been building cars for many years and nowadays when I want something done, i want it done right. It's not a money issue as much as it is a patience issue. I could have probably had counterfeit fitted on my car, painted with wheels by now but I'm saving up and buying the authentic quality parts little by little. I'm not made of money more than any of you guys but i'm not going to throw my hard earned money away on cheap knockoff parts for my car. I'd rather rock it stock than put that trash on my car. Most of you guys that don't agree with this philosophy are simply impatient or are not concerned with quality when it comes to your cars. In the end, if it takes you twice as long to save up for the quality stuff and get it on your car, the end result will be much cleaner and you will be much happier with what you end up with.
Pole Position
Joined: Jun 2004
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From: California
Originally Posted by Syed Shah
Just to clear this up, our cars understerr naturally, not oversteer.
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From: ca
Originally Posted by dough boi
Really? With both my old sc4 and my current sc3, cornering hard usually brings oversteer, esp in my 5spd when I heel toe and power through corners, its more tail happy than most cars I've driven, including my 300rwhp rx-7 and my buddies old '98 240sx
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Originally Posted by roo
it's pretty common knowlege that as knockoff molds get used more and get older the fitment gets worse and worse. (your odds of getting a crappy fitting setup get higher and higher)
if you're dead set on having something now now now, go ahead and get the knockoff and learn your lesson with the fitment and quality of what you get. Beyond the whole counterfeiting issue here, there's a maturity issue...I've been building cars for many years and nowadays when I want something done, i want it done right. It's not a money issue as much as it is a patience issue. I could have probably had counterfeit fitted on my car, painted with wheels by now but I'm saving up and buying the authentic quality parts little by little. I'm not made of money more than any of you guys but i'm not going to throw my hard earned money away on cheap knockoff parts for my car. I'd rather rock it stock than put that trash on my car. Most of you guys that don't agree with this philosophy are simply impatient or are not concerned with quality when it comes to your cars. In the end, if it takes you twice as long to save up for the quality stuff and get it on your car, the end result will be much cleaner and you will be much happier with what you end up with.
if you're dead set on having something now now now, go ahead and get the knockoff and learn your lesson with the fitment and quality of what you get. Beyond the whole counterfeiting issue here, there's a maturity issue...I've been building cars for many years and nowadays when I want something done, i want it done right. It's not a money issue as much as it is a patience issue. I could have probably had counterfeit fitted on my car, painted with wheels by now but I'm saving up and buying the authentic quality parts little by little. I'm not made of money more than any of you guys but i'm not going to throw my hard earned money away on cheap knockoff parts for my car. I'd rather rock it stock than put that trash on my car. Most of you guys that don't agree with this philosophy are simply impatient or are not concerned with quality when it comes to your cars. In the end, if it takes you twice as long to save up for the quality stuff and get it on your car, the end result will be much cleaner and you will be much happier with what you end up with.
This thread is funny.
Everyone is coming from their own side but I guess in the end it is your own car and you can do whatever you want to it.
My suggestion is to just not post anything because you know what everyone is going to say anyways.
Get the knock off, if it fits fine, cool. If it doesn't, do something else. It isn't our problem as much as it is your money.
Everyone is coming from their own side but I guess in the end it is your own car and you can do whatever you want to it.
My suggestion is to just not post anything because you know what everyone is going to say anyways.
Get the knock off, if it fits fine, cool. If it doesn't, do something else. It isn't our problem as much as it is your money.
Originally Posted by Xotic sC
This thread is funny.
Everyone is coming from their own side but I guess in the end it is your own car and you can do whatever you want to it.
My suggestion is to just not post anything because you know what everyone is going to say anyways.
Get the knock off, if it fits fine, cool. If it doesn't, do something else. It isn't our problem as much as it is your money.
Everyone is coming from their own side but I guess in the end it is your own car and you can do whatever you want to it.
My suggestion is to just not post anything because you know what everyone is going to say anyways.
Get the knock off, if it fits fine, cool. If it doesn't, do something else. It isn't our problem as much as it is your money.
I had originally made this post to see if anyone had a couple pics of any SCs with canards and splitters.
Lead Lap
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From: Torrance, California
It's your car...
Canards and splitters are cool and all...on a racecar.
On a street car, it's a bit overkill and boy-racerish. IMO
Canards and front air dams are for high speed downforce. Depending on the design, placement, or location, they might actually be completely useless and create more drag than anything. Aerodynamics are funny like that
Knock off kits have the same style, but since dimensions are different, that extra mm or so out or in can often ruin the aerodynamic function of the original piece...rendering it nothing more than a cosmetic modification.
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Just look for any Ueno photos. I dont know of anyone running canards on their street SC (or race SC for that matter)
Canards and splitters are cool and all...on a racecar.
On a street car, it's a bit overkill and boy-racerish. IMO
Canards and front air dams are for high speed downforce. Depending on the design, placement, or location, they might actually be completely useless and create more drag than anything. Aerodynamics are funny like that
Knock off kits have the same style, but since dimensions are different, that extra mm or so out or in can often ruin the aerodynamic function of the original piece...rendering it nothing more than a cosmetic modification.
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Just look for any Ueno photos. I dont know of anyone running canards on their street SC (or race SC for that matter)
Racer
Joined: Dec 2001
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From: Kentucky
Guys, let's keep it civil in here or the losed will meet the sea. Thanks.
Jspec - no need for the rough language (I see it going there in a minute). I do see both sides of the table, and will say this. Cry once. You can gamble with some things, and some things you cannot. If you roll and crap out, the money will follow it. These guys mean well, they just would hate for you to get something unworthy and have to spend mucho dinero getting it right. Trust us - those of us that have been around for some time know what this is about. Besides, you just disclosed that you have seen it test-fitted on another car. Good luck in your endeavors, everyone get along now.
Kthxbye
Jspec - no need for the rough language (I see it going there in a minute). I do see both sides of the table, and will say this. Cry once. You can gamble with some things, and some things you cannot. If you roll and crap out, the money will follow it. These guys mean well, they just would hate for you to get something unworthy and have to spend mucho dinero getting it right. Trust us - those of us that have been around for some time know what this is about. Besides, you just disclosed that you have seen it test-fitted on another car. Good luck in your endeavors, everyone get along now.
Kthxbye
Originally Posted by MikeFD3S
It's your car...
Canards and splitters are cool and all...on a racecar.
On a street car, it's a bit overkill and boy-racerish. IMO
Canards and front air dams are for high speed downforce. Depending on the design, placement, or location, they might actually be completely useless and create more drag than anything. Aerodynamics are funny like that
Knock off kits have the same style, but since dimensions are different, that extra mm or so out or in can often ruin the aerodynamic function of the original piece...rendering it nothing more than a cosmetic modification.
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Just look for any Ueno photos. I dont know of anyone running canards on their street SC (or race SC for that matter)
Canards and splitters are cool and all...on a racecar.
On a street car, it's a bit overkill and boy-racerish. IMO
Canards and front air dams are for high speed downforce. Depending on the design, placement, or location, they might actually be completely useless and create more drag than anything. Aerodynamics are funny like that
Knock off kits have the same style, but since dimensions are different, that extra mm or so out or in can often ruin the aerodynamic function of the original piece...rendering it nothing more than a cosmetic modification.
~~~~
Just look for any Ueno photos. I dont know of anyone running canards on their street SC (or race SC for that matter)
