Dead Battery
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Dead Battery
On one cold day back in December I was gearing up for my morning dive. Because it was pitch black outside I thought it would be a good idea to leave the lights on (come/leave home stays on until the car is locked). The lights were on for about 40 minutes. I then locked the car (RX500h). Hazards flashed, buzzer beeped. I came back an hour later and popped the hatch open. The car beeped again and hazards flashed. And this is where the problems began. I tried opening the side door but to no avail (gotta thank Lexus for those idiotic electronic release handles). Pressing the unlock button on the fob only resulted in flashing lights but no buzzing. Doors were still locked. I had to climb over the back seats to reach the rear door manual release handle. Once the doors were open I tried starting up the car. It beeped again but the dash didn't even light up. Dead battery symptoms... Luckily another diver was parked nearby and had jumper cables. We jumped the battery and the car started right up.
Two weeks went by with zero issues.
Having feared being left alone with a dead battery in the middle of nowhere, I decided that my wife's husband deserves another Christmas gift in a form of a booster.
Sure enough, couple of days ago I had the same issue. No lights were running before locking the car but same symptoms came up again. The hatch opened no problem but then the car died on me again. The booster was put to its intended use and voila the car was brought back to life.
I blame the battery but wondering if this happened to anyone else. The car is less than a year old and Lexus keeps scoring top three across all known reliability charts. My next servicing is coming up soon so I will definitely have them look into it but my guess is that they will offer a battery replacement at my own expense.
Kinda ironic that a hybrid car is immobilized because of a dead battery.
Two weeks went by with zero issues.
Having feared being left alone with a dead battery in the middle of nowhere, I decided that my wife's husband deserves another Christmas gift in a form of a booster.
Sure enough, couple of days ago I had the same issue. No lights were running before locking the car but same symptoms came up again. The hatch opened no problem but then the car died on me again. The booster was put to its intended use and voila the car was brought back to life.
I blame the battery but wondering if this happened to anyone else. The car is less than a year old and Lexus keeps scoring top three across all known reliability charts. My next servicing is coming up soon so I will definitely have them look into it but my guess is that they will offer a battery replacement at my own expense.
Kinda ironic that a hybrid car is immobilized because of a dead battery.
Last edited by tecdivingaccountant; 01-16-24 at 05:49 AM.
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04-02-24, 01:34 PM
Possible source of parasitic battery drain
My 2024 RX450h+ was draining the 12 V battery whenever it sat for a few days. I bought a battery monitor on Amazon that tracks battery voltage and downloads data to the phone. I noticed a cyclical draining of the battery when the vehicle was off. I measured fuse voltages (vehicle off, doors latched) and found the drain was thru fuse ECU-DCC No. 3. I put a fuse extender in and monitored the current thru this fuse. (Fig. Below). Something was evidently turning on and off continuously (vehicle off) and drawing a lot of current. One of the items on this circuit is the Bluetooth Digital Key receiver assembly. (The Digital Key system uses an App on the cell phone to lock/unlock doors and even drive the vehicle without the key fob.) By chance I noticed that the cyclical discharging of the battery was triggered by the garage door opener! (See Fig. Below). It seems the Bluetooth Digital Key receiver was responding to the garage door opener, cycling on and off and discharging the battery. When I disabled the Digital Key system in the car (Settings -> Info & Security -> Enable Digital Keys -> OFF), the problem went away! I’m still able to use the Lexus App to unlock/lock the car, and see info about the vehicle (linking to it through cell phone or WiFI, I guess). But beware the Digital Key—it seems to be a source of serious parasitic battery drain.
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Just reading the above make me want to seek out a high end battery. Suggestions?
#3
Seems to be a very common issue with the new RX and NX. I personally know 2 people with the exact same issue.
Seems like Lexus Engineers miscalculated something with battery load capacity and the residual loads.
Seems like Lexus Engineers miscalculated something with battery load capacity and the residual loads.
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On one cold day back in December I was gearing up for my morning dive. Because it was pitch black outside I thought it would be a good idea to leave the lights on (come/leave home stays on until the car is locked). The lights were on for about 40 minutes. I then locked the car (RX500h). Hazards flashed, buzzer beeped. I came back an hour later and popped the hatch open. The car beeped again and hazards flashed. And this is where the problems began. I tried opening the side door but to no avail (gotta thank Lexus for those idiotic electronic release handles). Pressing the unlock button on the fob only resulted in flashing lights but no buzzing. Doors were still locked. I had to climb over the back seats to reach the rear door manual release handle. Once the doors were open I tried starting up the car. It beeped again but the dash didn't even light up. Dead battery symptoms... Luckily another diver was parked nearby and had jumper cables. We jumped the battery and the car started right up.
Two weeks went by with zero issues.
Having feared being left alone with a dead battery in the middle of nowhere, I decided that my wife's husband deserves another Christmas gift in a form of a booster.
Sure enough, couple of days ago I had the same issue. No lights were running before locking the car but same symptoms came up again. The hatch opened no problem but then the car died on me again. The booster was put to its intended use and voila the car was brought back to life.
I blame the battery but wondering if this happened to anyone else. The car is less than a year old and Lexus keeps scoring top three across all known reliability charts. My next servicing is coming up soon so I will definitely have them look into it but my guess is that they will offer a battery replacement at my own expense.
Kinda ironic that a hybrid car is immobilized because of a dead battery.
Two weeks went by with zero issues.
Having feared being left alone with a dead battery in the middle of nowhere, I decided that my wife's husband deserves another Christmas gift in a form of a booster.
Sure enough, couple of days ago I had the same issue. No lights were running before locking the car but same symptoms came up again. The hatch opened no problem but then the car died on me again. The booster was put to its intended use and voila the car was brought back to life.
I blame the battery but wondering if this happened to anyone else. The car is less than a year old and Lexus keeps scoring top three across all known reliability charts. My next servicing is coming up soon so I will definitely have them look into it but my guess is that they will offer a battery replacement at my own expense.
Kinda ironic that a hybrid car is immobilized because of a dead battery.
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This whole electronic door latch is dumb idea! What was wrong with the door handles that were proven and were reliable??
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I've seen several reports of dead batteries.
Because it was pitch black outside I thought it would be a good idea to leave the lights on (come/leave home stays on until the car is locked).
I've set ours to the minimum.
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@tecdivingaccountant what booster did you get to jump start the RX?
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It's too bad there isn't a way to use the hybrid battery to jump the 12 volt battery. A built in toggle switch to funnel some of that juice to the 12 volt would be nice.
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I got one made by NOCO. 1,000 Amp seem more than enough to jump a 2.4 liter engine.
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B015TKUPIC?...roduct_details
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B015TKUPIC?...roduct_details
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Every door on this car also has a manual lever. I am unclear on how they work on the other doors though. The manual says unlock the drivers door with mechanical key in order for the manual lever to work, but how do the other doors get unlocked if the battery is dead????
This whole electronic door latch is dumb idea! What was wrong with the door handles that were proven and were reliable??
This whole electronic door latch is dumb idea! What was wrong with the door handles that were proven and were reliable??
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Talk about complicating things for ABSOLUTELY no reason.
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My car has a mechanical key hole only on drivers door. I am still not sure how to use the mechanical leaver on the other doors. I will have to test it with the battery connected to see if unlocking the drivers door with mechanical key will allow usage of the mechanical door lever from outside.
Talk about complicating things for ABSOLUTELY no reason.
Talk about complicating things for ABSOLUTELY no reason.