Swapping standard LEDs to the Triple LEDs
#19
First post here, but I'll introduce myself. I am an optical design engineer for Diode Dynamics, and spend most of my time designing LED projector systems. Looking into an RX350 for my wife, and decided I should do some emperical testing to see if the Triple Beam stuff was worth the option. I had the dealer I'm working with grab a standard RX and one with the Triple Beam. Brought my lux-meter that I use at work to measure the light output at the same location and a few test points on a darkened wall about 50' away to see if there was a noticeable improvement or not over the standard RX headlights.
The standard ones are some of the best on the market. Kioto Bi-LED units that I consider the gold standard right now for OEMs. I've reverse engineered the exact same projector for future products, and evaluated a bunch of others. So I was curious to see how much better the premium is. So when you measure light output, the quick and dirty way is to get the lux reading, basically the light intensity per a unit of area. I measured the standard RX and got the following:
Hotspot (brightest area at the center of the beam) = 350 lux
40* off angle, aka your width = 20 lux (very impressive)
20* off angle, aka picking up objects on the side of the road = 50 lux
Then went and got the car with the triple beam headlights. Results were surprising:
Hotspot = 230 lux
40* off angle = 12 lux (most of it ambient lighting)
20* off angle = 25 lux
So all in all, the standard Bi-LED units are actually fantastic, and the only reason to upgrade to the triple beam is for the styling choice. You'll actually lose output and overall beam width compared to the standard.
Hope this is useful info for anyone in the future!
The standard ones are some of the best on the market. Kioto Bi-LED units that I consider the gold standard right now for OEMs. I've reverse engineered the exact same projector for future products, and evaluated a bunch of others. So I was curious to see how much better the premium is. So when you measure light output, the quick and dirty way is to get the lux reading, basically the light intensity per a unit of area. I measured the standard RX and got the following:
Hotspot (brightest area at the center of the beam) = 350 lux
40* off angle, aka your width = 20 lux (very impressive)
20* off angle, aka picking up objects on the side of the road = 50 lux
Then went and got the car with the triple beam headlights. Results were surprising:
Hotspot = 230 lux
40* off angle = 12 lux (most of it ambient lighting)
20* off angle = 25 lux
So all in all, the standard Bi-LED units are actually fantastic, and the only reason to upgrade to the triple beam is for the styling choice. You'll actually lose output and overall beam width compared to the standard.
Hope this is useful info for anyone in the future!
#20
Racer
Regardless of what empirical testing does I find my 3lites to be very good. I don't know about the bi-lites but Toyo/Lexus has the tools to measure output and I'd wonder why they'd use something inferior in a more expensive model, it's possible, but IMO unlikely
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#22
Driver School Candidate
For all Bi-LED 4RX owner's, if you want an upgrade to your lighting contact Lightwerkz Global and see if you can get them to begin testing an upgraded lens solution for you guys. With enough interest they may see an opportunity in the market, and you guys could start getting close to HID levels of output.
#23
Driver School Candidate
You will be wasting your time and money, the factory 3" Koito Bi-LED projector is a fantastic unit, it just needs a helping hand. Contact Lightwerkz Global to see if they can get a clear lens upgrade solution for you, with enough interest they will make it an inventoried item.
#24
I've had my '18 RX for 7 months and drove a rural road at night for the first time this week. First time I've used the high beams and the auto-high beams.
On the other hand, I drive in the city after dark multiple times per week and really appreciate the cornering lights that come with the triple beams.
On the other hand, I drive in the city after dark multiple times per week and really appreciate the cornering lights that come with the triple beams.
#26
If you are the least bit handy, there are a select few high quality, aftermarket HID solutions. Don't get hung up on the lens shape "triple beam." A single, HID can outshine in some cases- it's all about lumens. Think about one bright spotlight vs. 3 small lights. Avoid cheap aftermarket. Talk to a high end custom shop and enthusiast who customize their vehicles. Fro under $200.00 you should be able to buy an easy to install kit that comes with ballasts, HID's, harnesses, etc. It should be mostly plug and play except to connect the relay to the positive and negative on the battery- very easy and works quite well.
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#27
If you are the least bit handy, there are a select few high quality, aftermarket HID solutions. Don't get hung up on the lens shape "triple beam." A single, HID can outshine in some cases- it's all about lumens. Think about one bright spotlight vs. 3 small lights. Avoid cheap aftermarket. Talk to a high end custom shop and enthusiast who customize their vehicles. Fro under $200.00 you should be able to buy an easy to install kit that comes with ballasts, HID's, harnesses, etc. It should be mostly plug and play except to connect the relay to the positive and negative on the battery- very easy and works quite well.
#28
I had not given much thought to what is currently in the vehicle- you may have gotten me there. I thought however that the point of upgrading was to get a brighter, safer headlight- that is the "lens" that I see through. Regardless of the type of OEM bulb/ballast currently in the vehicle, the lumens is the bottom line and what matters to most. The HID kit(s) I referenced will achieve a very bright LED light, regardless of bulb type currently in the vehicle- make a night and day difference and can be installed in minutes without any special skills or many tools. The IIHS rated the lights in the 2020 RX from A (Acceptable) to P (Poor)- no GOOD option. I was simply letting the OP know that a better option exists. If the OP wants to go through the hassle and expense of changing the lights for cosmetic reasons (like the looks of the look of the triple beam), then have at it. Those things don't matter at all to me. I'm concerned with seeing at night for safety- but to each their own I suppose.
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Trimple beam head light.
Ive bought a Lexus rx350 2016 3 months ago, but it doesn't have a trimple beam head light. I asked Lexus dealer for the package trimple beam head light installation but they said they can't install with a used car. Do you guys know where can I buy it and where they accept for installation? Thank you.