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Old Jan 9, 2022 | 04:33 PM
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You do sound Snarky and you totally ignore the fact that probably 99% of owners are not qualified to determine what they need. What you responded to is a question about what the 30,000 mile service costs. That refers to the manufacturers service schedule, not what the commissioned sales people determined.

I am in the 1% who does have the knowledge. At 69 years old I still do all of the maintenance of my three motorcycles. Most of my recent cars have had free maintenance for most of the time I’ve owned them. But I did pay for most of the maintenance on the GX460 we just traded. Nothing they recommended seemed unreasonable to me, including the brake fluid. I’ve never seen brake fluid that did not need changing at 30,000 miles, and it was not particularly expensive to have done. The fact that you may be knowledgeable enough to monitor your fluid may make it acceptable for you to not change it, but for most people changing it at 30,000 is a very reasonable precaution.

I agree that other dealers are capable of doing good service. I live in a small town that does not have a Lexus or TOYOTA dealer. But it is a somewhat wealthy town and there are a lot of Lexus here. I found out the local Ford dealer actually stocks Lexus filters and they did a great job in their quick lane. They charged me $80 for a full synthetic oil change and inspected everything, including the brake pads. They did not suggest anything needing to be done.
He's merely pointing out that the 30k mile mfr recommendation in the manual is usually very different than what the dealer suggests for those intervals. The 99% of owners you refer to are quite capable of reading the owner's manual.
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 05:10 AM
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Last week did my 60,000 service at my local Lexus dealer on my 2017 RX 450h.
Total cost:
Brake fluid change $120
tire rotation $20
labor for oil change $30
Total $170

I supplied the Mobil 1 $30 at Walmart minus Mobil's $12 rebate net $18
Toyota oil filter bought on line $5
Cabin and air filters bought on line $50 and takes 5 minutes to do both
Net total $243
Does anyone know what Lexus would charge for the 60,000 mile service? My guess around $800.
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Freds430
Last week did my 60,000 service at my local Lexus dealer on my 2017 RX 450h.
Total cost:
Brake fluid change $120
tire rotation $20
labor for oil change $30
Total $170

I supplied the Mobil 1 $30 at Walmart minus Mobil's $12 rebate net $18
Toyota oil filter bought on line $5
Cabin and air filters bought on line $50 and takes 5 minutes to do both
Net total $243
Does anyone know what Lexus would charge for the 60,000 mile service? My guess around $800.
In Canada (Toronto area which is high cost) success Service 3 work brake fluid change is $539 canadian. Which is about $20 USD lol...

Realistically converted would be about $420 USD.
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by mikemu30
He's merely pointing out that the 30k mile mfr recommendation in the manual is usually very different than what the dealer suggests for those intervals. The 99% of owners you refer to are quite capable of reading the owner's manual.
Which goes back to my point. The OP simply asked how much the 30,000 service cost. He did not ask for opinions on whether the FACTORY service schedule made sense or not. My comment actually addressed that the owners manual is designed to tell the 99% what they need to know about each service interval.
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 06:11 AM
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If I have full synthetic, isn’t it to be changed at 10k or 12 months? I rotate every 6-7k miles. Thanks
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 06:44 AM
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Hey All,

Just dropped off my car to the Toyota dealership - did what the posts recommended here and checked the manual, which recommended the brake fluid replacement and all filters being changed - so, went with that. A few clarifications:

1. I never asked the Lexus dealer to perform the 30K service; apologies if I made it sound like I did. I know I was due for the 30K, but he called me and asked for miles. He said he could see what service had / had not been done and that it was going to be a heavy maintenance that would require the car being with them all day - that's when he quoted me the $1350.

2. The car notification just says "maintenance required, visit the dealer." It doesn't say anything more specific than that.

3. With the requests to replace all filters, I think my total will be right around the $400 mark, which is what our friend from Toronto posted. I think that is one thing to keep in mind when posting prices - the northeast, unfortunately, is terribly expensive so I don't think comparing prices with the midwest or some other less expensive part of the country would be an apples to apples comparison.

Fingers crossed that the Toyota dealer doesn't call claiming that I have X,Y,Z problems with the car. If that doesn't happen, this post / forum would have saved me a ton of money. Thank you again for that!
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by heally
If I have full synthetic, isn’t it to be changed at 10k or 12 months? I rotate every 6-7k miles. Thanks
10K miles is the recommendation. I do it every 7K or so just for a little more peace of mind. Probably doesn't matter especially since I generally don't keep a car for 100K miles or more.
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 12:50 PM
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If I have full synthetic, isn’t it to be changed at 10k or 12 months? I rotate every 6-7k miles. Thanks
I also do mine every 5k - 7k miles. I usually do oil when I put the car up to do tire rotation.
I know that they can go 10,000 miles but I notice the oil looking pretty dark at 10k, so I go a little earlier. I keep my cars forever and the cost to do myself is about $25-$30, so sooner is better than later.
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 12:55 PM
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Total cost for replacing all filters, oil change, brake fluid flush, and tire rotation came to $415 - I know some folks have done a lot better with price, but this is about 1/3rd of what Lexus was charging, so I'm happy.

Regarding the back and forth with when to change oil, does time factor into the equation at all or is it really just miles dependent. With Covid, I'm driving less and less so I don't see myself getting to even 7K - 9k miles all year. Does this mean it's OK for me to wait until next Jan to do any work on the car?
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by IRRX350
Total cost for replacing all filters, oil change, brake fluid flush, and tire rotation came to $415 - I know some folks have done a lot better with price, but this is about 1/3rd of what Lexus was charging, so I'm happy.

Regarding the back and forth with when to change oil, does time factor into the equation at all or is it really just miles dependent. With Covid, I'm driving less and less so I don't see myself getting to even 7K - 9k miles all year. Does this mean it's OK for me to wait until next Jan to do any work on the car?
In the manual it gives 12 months interval or 10K miles, if you are using full synthetic I think you could go over a little bit, not on reg oil, but I'm one of those that would rather do an OC sooner than later
Don't forget that the element in the oil filter if paper will not fare well beyond a certain period of time.
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 07:16 PM
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IRRX350 - Thank you very much for letting us know the end result of your visit to the Toyota dealership. I'm glad things worked out well for you. I think that's the place for your future Lexus maintenance.
I agree the original quote from the Lexus dealer was way too high, and you were smart to ask here.
BTW, we don't drive our '21RX350 very much due to being retired combined with Covid travel concerns, so we change the oil every year. Happy motoring!
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Old Jan 10, 2022 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by IRRX350
Total cost for replacing all filters, oil change, brake fluid flush, and tire rotation came to $415 - I know some folks have done a lot better with price, but this is about 1/3rd of what Lexus was charging, so I'm happy.

Regarding the back and forth with when to change oil, does time factor into the equation at all or is it really just miles dependent. With Covid, I'm driving less and less so I don't see myself getting to even 7K - 9k miles all year. Does this mean it's OK for me to wait until next Jan to do any work on the car?
TIme is a factor, oil degrades after heat cycles and also draw in moisture and turns acidic over time. Toyota and Mobil1 says synthetic is good for 12 month after first use. I believe them.

But I change my oil every 7500 miles because it helps me sleep better at night. Sludge is my boogeyman...
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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by IRRX350
Hey All,

Just dropped off my car to the Toyota dealership - did what the posts recommended here and checked the manual, which recommended the brake fluid replacement and all filters being changed - so, went with that. A few clarifications:

1. I never asked the Lexus dealer to perform the 30K service; apologies if I made it sound like I did. I know I was due for the 30K, but he called me and asked for miles. He said he could see what service had / had not been done and that it was going to be a heavy maintenance that would require the car being with them all day - that's when he quoted me the $1350.

2. The car notification just says "maintenance required, visit the dealer." It doesn't say anything more specific than that.

3. With the requests to replace all filters, I think my total will be right around the $400 mark, which is what our friend from Toronto posted. I think that is one thing to keep in mind when posting prices - the northeast, unfortunately, is terribly expensive so I don't think comparing prices with the midwest or some other less expensive part of the country would be an apples to apples comparison.

Fingers crossed that the Toyota dealer doesn't call claiming that I have X,Y,Z problems with the car. If that doesn't happen, this post / forum would have saved me a ton of money. Thank you again for that!
I just pulled the receipt for the 30,000 mile service on the 2016 GX460 we just traded. They charged me $539. That included everything the 30k service calls for, including the brake fluid change.

As I stated in an earlier post, I can easily do all those things myself, I’m quite capable. But it was a simple matter of having reached a point of more money than time. I could have had it done cheaper elsewhere. But the truth is that I seldom spend much money at dealerships, and I had a great service writer. I have found that most places will go out of their way to do favors for good customers who they like. So I spent the money.
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Old Jan 11, 2022 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by IRRX350
Total cost for replacing all filters, oil change, brake fluid flush, and tire rotation came to $415 - I know some folks have done a lot better with price, but this is about 1/3rd of what Lexus was charging, so I'm happy.

Regarding the back and forth with when to change oil, does time factor into the equation at all or is it really just miles dependent. With Covid, I'm driving less and less so I don't see myself getting to even 7K - 9k miles all year. Does this mean it's OK for me to wait until next Jan to do any work on the car?
Its mostly miles dependent unless your vehicle sits for extended period of time, or if most of your trips are too short for the engine to fully warm up. So there is really not a black or white answer to miles vs time. As others have stated, the best rule of thumb is once a year if the miles don’t get you there. And most new vehicles state that.
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Old Jan 15, 2022 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Cocal
This may save you more $$$ than $150 as brake fluid being hygroscopic collects water which in turn could produce rust on some sensors that would then have to be replaced.
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Water does over time, collect in the brake hydraulic system. This will cause internal steel break parts in the system to rust. But this normally takes years depending on how tight your system is. If you have a new vehicle and plan on keeping it 5 or 6 years, don't worry about the brake fluid. If you are keeping it for 8 or 10 or 15 or more years, there is a simple test which will save you hundreds of dollars. It's called a "4598 Brake Fluid Tester". It will tell you how much H2O is in your system. Why would you spend $100 or more to flush the fluid if the H2O content is .1% or less? This would be a waste of time and money and brake fluid. It is simple to use. Open the brake fluid reservoir and place the two steel probes in the fluid and wait about 5 seconds. That will give you a reading. The one I have is not commercial quality and don't expect that for the money I paid. I don't expect 100% accuracy. I would recommend an initial test to establish a base, then once a year for a vehicle that is 7 years old or older.
I once had a 2011 Nissan Altima. The owners manual said to replace the brake fluid "once a year". Ridiculous.
Refer to the video shown at post # 234 for more information. The Car Care Nut explains it better than me.

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