Tires.....What are you running?
PS: Because of speed "error" I installed 235/60/18 (60 is the max size for rear tires)
Did a Google search on Michelin Premier A/S and came up with this review: "Tread life is horrible for a tire with a 60k mileage warranty. I'm just over 30k on them and I'm already down to 3-4/32. Performance-wise they've been great in both dry and wet weather but I expect them to last longer for a $200+ tire."
I could have written that exact review.
After working through tire reviews on several sites, one person stated he always contacts Michelin to identify the latest/greatest for his car. Made sense so I checked the Michelin site. They only recommend 5 tires:
https://www.michelinman.com/auto/bro...---55R18%2099V
- CrossClimate
- Primacy™ MXM4
- Latitude® Sport
- Pilot® Sport All Season
- X-ICE® SNOW Tires
In Northern Virginia, we hardly get enough snow anymore to merit a winter-focused tire so the X-Ice is out. BJs only sells the first three listed (Latitude Tour, not Sport). If it snows a lot here you are foolish to go out on the roads regardless of your car or skills because it's the other drivers who are clueless about driving in bad conditions.
The tread pattern on the CrossClimate looks very different from standard all-season tires. "V-shaped tread pattern, 3-D full self-locking sipes, and emerging grooves to provide maximum traction and braking in both snow and wet conditions." I've never had the V-shaped pattern tread pattern tires on either my RX 350 or RX 300. Tires look cool, but we have 75% dry pavement conditions here in northern Virginia - not the rain of the pacific northwest or snow of the midwest - so if V-Shaped is not primarily/just to push snow/water out of the way they are an interesting option.
Reviews fall into two main camps. Folks who beam about their great new tires - grip, handling, etc. which is pretty obvious since they're writing reviews shortly after having them installed. Camp #2 are the reviewers who after several years and 25-35k are complaining about tread wear. The second group is the one I factor most credibility. Reading through many reviews - especially the Lattitude have folks complaining about tire wear at 30k - half the warranty. Since I'm having the same tread life issues with My Premier A/S I'm thinking about getting the tires with the longest warranty and then heading back to BJs at 28k miles and if I'm concerned about tread wear try and negotiate the best deal to replace the tires with a different option at that time - hopefully, an option that is getting loser to 55-60k tread life with consistent handling - to get the most replacement funds allotted to the new set of 4 tires. Warranties are 55k for the MXM4s, 60k for the CrossClimate, and 65k for the Latitude Tour (not Sport on the Michelin site) at BJs. Interesting how the mileage warranties on Michelin's site are: 55k for the MXM4s, but only 50k for the CrossClimate, and 55k for the Latitude Tour https://www.michelinman.com/auto/tir...titude-tour-hp
BJs also factors time into their warranties. During Covid, we've all driven less. In my case, if I was trying to use the warranty, only 17k miles is good but nearly 3 years counts against me. I'm using insurance so anything above my $500 deductible gets paid by others.
Apologies for the long post here but I'm trying to help RX350 owners nail down the best option for replacement Michelin tires.
Thoughts?
The best -- the Michelin Defender LTX M/S (as of today, the tires have 34,500 miles on them with treadwear at 7/32).
Every other tire we have had over the years (there have been many) would be looking at replacement right now.
The best -- the Michelin Defender LTX M/S (as of today, the tires have 34,500 miles on them with treadwear at 7/32).
Every other tire we have had over the years (there have been many) would be looking at replacement right now.
The Michelin Rep really likes the CrossClimate and it became the second choice but living in Northern Virginia I don't need the aggressive V tread to address snow and water. Unfortunately, the Primacy MXM4 has the lowest mileage warranty at 55k, but the rep said they only had a few treadwear complaints and those were at 37 or 42k --- much more than the 25-28k I and others here on Club Lexus have been getting with the Premier A/S. Learned a lot about Michelin's treadwear warranty and if it's 55k, it's also 6 years - meaning low mileage vehicles like mine can probably get some money back if in year 5 or 6 tires with 30k miles are having issues. The Key is the inspection done by the tire mechanic. Another key is if you, unfortunately, have a terrible blowout on the highway, make sure to collect any large pieces of the tire so they can be inspected.
I was strongly considering the Defender LTX but then learned about speed ratings. T (100T) rated tires max out at 118 mph. H-rated tires are at 130 mph. V-rated tires max out at 149. While I'm certainly not going to get near 149 mph, I did have a wonderful cross country trip (3000 miles) where I did exceed 100 a couple of times on extended flat highways - thank you Iowa, Kansas, etc... I also figured the V-rated tires, to accommodate the higher speeds, had to be built stronger in some capacity. The Primacy MXM4 (100V) is Michelin's luxury performance tire and had the highest across the board ratings [10 being the highest - treadwear 9, comfort (including noise) 9, handling 10, fuel efficiency 9, braking 9.
I asked the BJs Club Tire mechanic about the Primacy MXM4 and he really likes them too. BJs was out of stock so the tires I ordered will be installed next week. I'll be sure to return with a post-installation review.
Options at BJs: https://tires.bjs.com/tires/search/?...im=18&brands=3
One final note, I was in Baltimore this weekend and experienced a completely flat tire - one that hadn't been one of the nail repaired tires. Damn Premier A/S tires!!! I was a few days from replacing all 4. I hadn't changed a tire in over twenty years. That tire will be fully inspected when the tires are changed because
I couldn't find an obvious source like a nail and the Michelin rep is interested.
I have a sedan with 6 y/o tires. They would last another year or two (regular rotation = normal wear, not bold), but yesterday the 6 y/o rubber air valve died, and tire lost air very fast. I was able to leave the road and park fast, but tire still got the run-flat sign on the side (because of age). So, tire shops didn't take it for valve replacement ($12) because of the risk that tire could blow out. As a result, I had to order a full set of new tires.
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Thanks in advance.
Get some Bridgestones. All my cars are on them, except my SC, tire place convinced me on Sumitomo's went cheap on it and it is so-so. Would rather have Bridgestones. If I can sell them decent, I would switch over.
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Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
I run Goodyear Assurance Maxlife tires with a 65k miles Treadlife Warranty.
a bit pricey @ $195 a tire. They are Quite have Great Traction/Grip and deliver a Smooth Quiet Ride.
They work Great for me on this car.
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