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Old May 22, 2016 | 05:14 PM
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The first photo is of the bare axle, with the old broken ring and both old dust protectors removed. The 2nd photo is of the 3 rings sitting loosely on the axle. They are in the order to be installed.

The 3rd photo shows the PVC tool. I have put the axle nut on, and then started cranking down on the nut, creating a mini-press.

I should note that I put a light coating of motor oil both on the axle where the rings slide onto, and on the threaded part of the axle before tightening the nut.

Also be aware that the toothed ring has a "ridge" on the inner side. It will only set on the axle in one direction.

Anyway the result of my experiment was that the inner dust ring did seat. The toothed ring appears to be in the correct position but still rotates on the axle.

The outer ring at first would not seat at all. So I got more aggressive torqueing the nut. The result of that is that the outer ring ended up stuck inside the PVC pipe. I briefly tried to remove it. But after efforts were futile I decided to leave it in. My hope was that it would re-inforce the end of the pipe enough that I could use this to press on another new dust protector ring.
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Old May 22, 2016 | 05:20 PM
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This is what I have now.

Even with an impact wrench I could not get the outer ring to seat well. I tried to hammer around with a punch, but the metal is pretty soft, and I fear I have damaged the outer ring beyond usability. You can see in the photo that the ring is dented in places. Also, and I think I bigger issue is that the toothed ring still rotates around the axle. This is why I was wondering of some adhesive is needed.
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Old May 23, 2016 | 07:04 AM
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it looks like you have a mm or so of room to push all 3 rings down. Compare with your known good axle. If the tone ring is not lined up with the sensor, all your effort will be wasted, as it will not pick up the signal properly.
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Old May 23, 2016 | 09:00 AM
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Compare post 17 with 4. [your's current with Murphy's reference]. The outer seems flipped or things are out of order. #4 shows a slot for a v-belt on the outside of the ring [there is or will not be a belt, but there is radial channel].

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Old May 23, 2016 | 09:35 AM
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Here are the photos side by side. This picture of mine is taken at more of a 90 degree axle. It appears to me the outer ring is not "flipped". But I could see that my rings may not be quite all the way on.

I will try to get a side by side of my axle and another axle.
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Old May 31, 2016 | 02:22 PM
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Well, great effort on the re-installation! I currently have put my shaft back in place with an epoxied reluctor ring (that failed after 2 weeks). I have purchased the 3 price set and will continue to hold them until our solution is found. I am currently thinking that the inside ring, speed ring, and dust ring are assembled with a machine/press in the original process with a 'force' fit. (Epoxy in the original assy. not used) The process of getting these rings in their proper position looks like a major task.....as you have found! I believe we need to dig a little deeper for that technical info from the ordinal source....I have measured the inside diameters of the inner ring and speed ring, with the larger diameter lip of the speed ring being .003 larger than the inside rings outer surface....hence I think that the inner ring has to be forced out to come in contact with speed ring...(guessing) I continue to research...
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Old May 31, 2016 | 06:22 PM
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Rockauto is having some clearance/discontinued sale on RX parts. Maybe you can get an assembled shaft.

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Old Jun 2, 2016 | 04:12 PM
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Thanks Salim...they haven't had any for some time now.....��
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