so even though the LC 500 is about/approximately 400 pounds heavier than the rcf it still handles better ?

 

I think the LC500 does a better job at hiding its weight than the RC F.

 

that is interesting. Maybe a LC 500 is the better way to go.

 

There is no wrong choice. Both cars are excellent. I would test drive both and see what you like.

 

Not sure what the point is of doing these comparisons. If you were to go by objective lap times, RCF has the quicker times on most tracks especially with the TVD on the RCF. However, subjectively LC500 probably feels as good because it has 21 inch wheels so steering will feel sharper and the engine sits lower in the chassis than it does in the RCF.

To your question, RCF track edition handles better than either the RCF carbon/TVD or the RCF LSD. It is a lighter car by around 170 lbs and a lot of it is from the front of the car so it has a closer to 50/50 balance. 472 HP and 3800 lbs. RCF is about 1 foot shorter than your GSF. You do the math. Also, it is exclusive as only 50 will be available. All of the owners of the TE seem to be happy with it.

 

It feels faster to me. As I said my LC, has PPE headers and a dual mode exhaust, pushing about 30 more horses to the wheels than my FBO ISF. My ISF handled like a slot car, the LC does not My ISF had modified RCF wheels with 255/35/19 and 295/30/19 Bridgestone S-04s. My LC has 9½' and 10/½" Vossens with 255/40/21 and 295/35/21 PS4S tires. The LC handles damn good for such a heavy car, but alas, not as good as my ISF.

Lou

 

If you're looking for the best handling none of these cars will do. The RCF is a 3800LB coupe.

Also, I don't see how 21" wheels would do anything for "steering sharpness". on the contrary, heavier wheels tend to negatively impact performance.

 

I agree with you. I know a lot of people favor the LC 500 because of it's looks, gorgeous interior, build quality, and prestige. But at the end of the day from my past experience with performance cars, you can not mask 600 pounds of weight difference or even 400 pounds even with 21 inch wheels and having a engine that sits lower to the ground. I honestly think that based on the 400-600 pound weight difference alone, the GSF, RCF, AND RCF TRACK edition have to be better performing cars than the 4400 pound LC 500.

 

I agree as well, but in all honesty its sort of like comparing a rhino to a bull and trying to get then to ballet dance. Both are plenty heavy. Do both of these cars handle well? I'm sure. But if your priority is nimble handling you best look elsewhere. That's not to say the GSF isnt a good handling car; it handles excellent especially for its sheer size and weight, but it is still too heavy nonetheless. The LC500 is a gorgeous car. If you're considering any of these cars you're probably just looking for a fast cruiser that's more adept at carving high speed corners around a mountain rather than extremely tight and nimble handling.

Do I prefer small and light cars for myself? Absolutely. I'll choose a good handling car over a powerful one most days of the week. But does the GSF and LC500 appeal to me in it's own way, and would I own one if given the chance, despite agreeing with myself no more heavy cars? Absolutely yes.

 

Part of my problem is me. I currently own a GT 350R so handling is a premium for me as well as sound and performance. I already know how well the GSF handles and I am just afraid that for $ 100,000.00 the LC 500 is no more than a GORGEOUS gentlemans GT cruiser. Not saying it can not handle well, but I can not believe that it can out handle a RCF track edition, and if it does, then I give LEXUS A TON OF CREDIT for waving the magic wand, which they have been known to do.

But then again at this time next year the $ 180,000.00 LCF will be available !

 

So what is your current set of wheels

Lou

 

I would test drive both cars and see what you like. You will be disappointed coming from a GT350R lol. Nothing Lexus makes currently can hold a candle to the GT350R.

 

I have a white TE and enjoy the car. I bought it for many reasons like performance, luxury, build quality, maintenance, resale, looks and because I like cars that you rarely see on the road. I paid less then msrp back in July.

I have wanted a RCF for years and if I was buying a standard car with options like performance package, triple beams, Levinson etc I was at $86k so for me to get the TE, carbon hood/wing, wheels, ceramics, interior upgrade and a rare car for 13k more it was worth the jump to buy a TE.

I also like the LC but for me to add my own flavor to it and de grandpa the car I would have to spend another $5k+ and have more of a GT car then the TE already is so I went TE.

 

Sickness

 

BEAUTIFUL CAR !!!!!!!!!!!!

I have 2 questions for you, how much did you pay, if you do not mind me asking and how is the performance/handling compared to other performance cars you have driven.