You've been F'ed
08-23-15, 08:30 PM
#31
Pole Position
Thread Starter
The RC F has some definite upside besides the V-8. Very few out there so you are not passing yourself all the time on the freeway - like Mustang, Camaro, Vette. I guess the same could be said for the M4, but you've seen one Bimmer, you've seen them all seems to me, unless it's an i8 or a 6 series.
At some point I ask myself, what am I going to do with XXX HP? At some point it's just overkill, and unless you are going to track a car, what can you do with it besides get in trouble? That said, I still want more but the RC-F has not been a disappointment. Back in the carburetor and points&condenser days, you would have been lucky to get 350 HP from an engine with 5.0 L displacement, so that in itself makes the car pretty amazing in my book. And having said all that, I'm somewhat in awe of the 800 HP E63 AMG, I wonder what that turns 0-60 in?
At some point I ask myself, what am I going to do with XXX HP? At some point it's just overkill, and unless you are going to track a car, what can you do with it besides get in trouble? That said, I still want more but the RC-F has not been a disappointment. Back in the carburetor and points&condenser days, you would have been lucky to get 350 HP from an engine with 5.0 L displacement, so that in itself makes the car pretty amazing in my book. And having said all that, I'm somewhat in awe of the 800 HP E63 AMG, I wonder what that turns 0-60 in?
08-23-15, 09:31 PM
#32
The RC F has some definite upside besides the V-8. Very few out there so you are not passing yourself all the time on the freeway - like Mustang, Camaro, Vette. I guess the same could be said for the M4, but you've seen one Bimmer, you've seen them all seems to me, unless it's an i8 or a 6 series.
At some point I ask myself, what am I going to do with XXX HP? At some point it's just overkill, and unless you are going to track a car, what can you do with it besides get in trouble? That said, I still want more but the RC-F has not been a disappointment. Back in the carburetor and points&condenser days, you would have been lucky to get 350 HP from an engine with 5.0 L displacement, so that in itself makes the car pretty amazing in my book. And having said all that, I'm somewhat in awe of the 800 HP E63 AMG, I wonder what that turns 0-60 in?
At some point I ask myself, what am I going to do with XXX HP? At some point it's just overkill, and unless you are going to track a car, what can you do with it besides get in trouble? That said, I still want more but the RC-F has not been a disappointment. Back in the carburetor and points&condenser days, you would have been lucky to get 350 HP from an engine with 5.0 L displacement, so that in itself makes the car pretty amazing in my book. And having said all that, I'm somewhat in awe of the 800 HP E63 AMG, I wonder what that turns 0-60 in?
08-24-15, 10:12 AM
#33
Lexus Test Driver
At some point I ask myself, what am I going to do with XXX HP? At some point it's just overkill, and unless you are going to track a car, what can you do with it besides get in trouble? That said, I still want more but the RC-F has not been a disappointment. Back in the carburetor and points&condenser days, you would have been lucky to get 350 HP from an engine with 5.0 L displacement, so that in itself makes the car pretty amazing in my book. And having said all that, I'm somewhat in awe of the 800 HP E63 AMG, I wonder what that turns 0-60 in?
When all is said and done it's a nice feeling to have a really fast car but you don't get to enjoy it in that regard very much. The car is actually for sale and I'm not 100% sure what I want to replace it with yet. I might go all out ultra luxury again if Lexus gives me an LS with a good powertrain (the current setup bores me) but the GS-F is a possibility as well. 0-60 is in the high 2 second range for my setup.
08-24-15, 10:54 AM
#34
I could almost bet my house that's not the case in normal conditions. With a front-engined RWD car, especially with a huge and heavy V8 up there, even with the stickiest STREET tires, you'd be in the 3-second range at best (Hellcats are in the 4-sec range)... unless you're stuffing your trunk with hundreds of pounds as a ballast 
And that's simple physics. Even the heavy RC-F has trouble with traction at only 467HP/389TQ and a regular automatic tranny, and it comes from the factory with the best street summer tire there is (Pilot Super Sports). A mid-engine RWD car can barely achieve 3 with the best street tires available, like 458s and MP4s. And that's with the awesome Getrag DCT tranny, which is miles quicker than the planetary-gear (with a wet clutch) that MB uses. That kind of heavy and powerful car with a regular auto tranny is for straight line roll-on races, where traction and shifting speed is not that much of an issue anymore (above 50/60 mph). That's why more and more powerful cars are AWD now. I'm not a fan of it, even though the GTR has it. But it's a huge advantage out of the hole even against much more powerful RWD cars, especially front-engined ones.
And that's simple physics. Even the heavy RC-F has trouble with traction at only 467HP/389TQ and a regular automatic tranny, and it comes from the factory with the best street summer tire there is (Pilot Super Sports). A mid-engine RWD car can barely achieve 3 with the best street tires available, like 458s and MP4s. And that's with the awesome Getrag DCT tranny, which is miles quicker than the planetary-gear (with a wet clutch) that MB uses. That kind of heavy and powerful car with a regular auto tranny is for straight line roll-on races, where traction and shifting speed is not that much of an issue anymore (above 50/60 mph). That's why more and more powerful cars are AWD now. I'm not a fan of it, even though the GTR has it. But it's a huge advantage out of the hole even against much more powerful RWD cars, especially front-engined ones.
Last edited by JCtx; 08-24-15 at 11:00 AM.
08-24-15, 11:12 AM
#35
Lexus Test Driver
I won't argue with that. I do have REALLY good tires and I'm ridiculously surprised at how well they grip. In any event, I F'ing HATE off-the-line racing. My last "fast car" was an all wheel drive S4 (also highly modified) and even with a racing advantage - I just didn't care for launching. That's not what makes me happy. What makes me happy is 40 or 60 onward... That being said, I'd probably love a Hellcat Charger...
I could almost bet my house that's not the case in normal conditions. With a front-engined RWD car, especially with a huge and heavy V8 up there, even with the stickiest STREET tires, you'd be in the 3-second range at best (Hellcats are in the 4-sec range)... unless you're stuffing your trunk with hundreds of pounds as a ballast And that's simple physics. Even the heavy RC-F has trouble with traction at only 467HP/389TQ and a regular automatic tranny, and it comes from the factory with the best street summer tire there is (Pilot Super Sports). A mid-engine RWD car can barely achieve 3 with the best street tires available, like 458s and MP4s. And that's with the awesome Getrag DCT tranny, which is miles quicker than the planetary-gear (with a wet clutch) that MB uses. That kind of heavy and powerful car with a regular auto tranny is for straight line roll-on races, where traction and shifting speed is not that much of an issue anymore (above 50/60 mph). That's why more and more powerful cars are AWD now. I'm not a fan of it, even though the GTR has it. But it's a huge advantage out of the hole even against much more powerful RWD cars, especially front-engined ones.
And that's simple physics. Even the heavy RC-F has trouble with traction at only 467HP/389TQ and a regular automatic tranny, and it comes from the factory with the best street summer tire there is (Pilot Super Sports). A mid-engine RWD car can barely achieve 3 with the best street tires available, like 458s and MP4s. And that's with the awesome Getrag DCT tranny, which is miles quicker than the planetary-gear (with a wet clutch) that MB uses. That kind of heavy and powerful car with a regular auto tranny is for straight line roll-on races, where traction and shifting speed is not that much of an issue anymore (above 50/60 mph). That's why more and more powerful cars are AWD now. I'm not a fan of it, even though the GTR has it. But it's a huge advantage out of the hole even against much more powerful RWD cars, especially front-engined ones.
08-24-15, 11:26 AM
#36
Lexus Test Driver
You can have plenty of fun without getting into trouble. A late night...3am...a wide open road that is straight for a mile...you can have a LOT of fun with that XXX hp.
08-24-15, 11:31 AM
#37
Lexus Test Driver
I could almost bet my house that's not the case in normal conditions. With a front-engined RWD car, especially with a huge and heavy V8 up there, even with the stickiest STREET tires, you'd be in the 3-second range at best (Hellcats are in the 4-sec range)... unless you're stuffing your trunk with hundreds of pounds as a ballast And that's simple physics. Even the heavy RC-F has trouble with traction at only 467HP/389TQ and a regular automatic tranny, and it comes from the factory with the best street summer tire there is (Pilot Super Sports). A mid-engine RWD car can barely achieve 3 with the best street tires available, like 458s and MP4s. And that's with the awesome Getrag DCT tranny, which is miles quicker than the planetary-gear (with a wet clutch) that MB uses. That kind of heavy and powerful car with a regular auto tranny is for straight line roll-on races, where traction and shifting speed is not that much of an issue anymore (above 50/60 mph). That's why more and more powerful cars are AWD now. I'm not a fan of it, even though the GTR has it. But it's a huge advantage out of the hole even against much more powerful RWD cars, especially front-engined ones.
And that's simple physics. Even the heavy RC-F has trouble with traction at only 467HP/389TQ and a regular automatic tranny, and it comes from the factory with the best street summer tire there is (Pilot Super Sports). A mid-engine RWD car can barely achieve 3 with the best street tires available, like 458s and MP4s. And that's with the awesome Getrag DCT tranny, which is miles quicker than the planetary-gear (with a wet clutch) that MB uses. That kind of heavy and powerful car with a regular auto tranny is for straight line roll-on races, where traction and shifting speed is not that much of an issue anymore (above 50/60 mph). That's why more and more powerful cars are AWD now. I'm not a fan of it, even though the GTR has it. But it's a huge advantage out of the hole even against much more powerful RWD cars, especially front-engined ones.However, have to disagree with you on tires. Guys who care about speed don't run MPSS. They put a drag radial on. That is how you bite. Slap a set of NT05s all around on your GT-R and I bet you either snap a half shaft or go to 60 in 2.6.
Last edited by Swacer; 08-24-15 at 11:36 AM.
08-24-15, 11:44 AM
#38
Lexus Test Driver
It's an E63 with 900 horsepower using race gas and 800hp on 93 octane. As mentioned, I don't care if it doesn't actually get to 60 in the two second range. It wasn't a bluff. I was just stating what the car is supposed to be capable of doing.
08-24-15, 11:52 AM
#39
I won't argue with that. I do have REALLY good tires and I'm ridiculously surprised at how well they grip. In any event, I F'ing HATE off-the-line racing. My last "fast car" was an all wheel drive S4 (also highly modified) and even with a racing advantage - I just didn't care for launching. That's not what makes me happy. What makes me happy is 40 or 60 onward... That being said, I'd probably love a Hellcat Charger...
08-24-15, 12:08 PM
#40
Lexus Test Driver
08-24-15, 12:12 PM
#41
What kind of Price are you going to ask for it? Thanks
08-24-15, 12:15 PM
#42
Lexus Test Driver
At the crank...
Ad: http://www.drivingemotions.com/2010-...istec-c-80.htm
...and here's the supercharger that went on:
http://weistec.com/all/e/e-63/2010-2...-e63-w212.html
Ad: http://www.drivingemotions.com/2010-...istec-c-80.htm
...and here's the supercharger that went on:
http://weistec.com/all/e/e-63/2010-2...-e63-w212.html
08-24-15, 12:18 PM
#43
Lexus Test Driver
At the crank...
Ad: http://www.drivingemotions.com/2010-...istec-c-80.htm
...and here's the supercharger that went on:
http://weistec.com/all/e/e-63/2010-2...-e63-w212.html
Ad: http://www.drivingemotions.com/2010-...istec-c-80.htm
...and here's the supercharger that went on:
http://weistec.com/all/e/e-63/2010-2...-e63-w212.html
08-24-15, 12:18 PM
#44
Lexus Test Driver
08-24-15, 12:26 PM
#45
Lexus Test Driver
edit: Sorry, Fysisist / ClubLexus. I never intended on derailing this thread...
Last edited by Sal Collaziano; 08-24-15 at 12:30 PM.