New 4 cyclinder....why?
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That's pretty much what I was saying and to the other poster who suggesting the OP wasn't being critical, even though I found the question a bit harsh, it was meant for some of the people commenting, including more after I posted. There are some who feel the need to criticize the lesser model at every turn, whether it be the IS250, or IS/RC200t's, it's been going on forever.
I did get over $5k off from the dealer (plus the Lexus incentives) and with the 200t having better residuals I was able to get a much better payment than I would have on the 350, pay mostly just the fees down and I will save money on gas and insurance. To those of you saying it's only $3k difference, all the extra costs do add up, believe me if the RC350 would have been as budget friendly sure I would have chosen it but I would rather have more free money to put into my new house, vacations and more nights out with my husband. I found the IS250 and now the RC200t very adequate for a daily driver and it is very nicely optioned which is more important to me than more HP.
I did get over $5k off from the dealer (plus the Lexus incentives) and with the 200t having better residuals I was able to get a much better payment than I would have on the 350, pay mostly just the fees down and I will save money on gas and insurance. To those of you saying it's only $3k difference, all the extra costs do add up, believe me if the RC350 would have been as budget friendly sure I would have chosen it but I would rather have more free money to put into my new house, vacations and more nights out with my husband. I found the IS250 and now the RC200t very adequate for a daily driver and it is very nicely optioned which is more important to me than more HP.
i don't think anyone is critical of the power of the small engine, but the msrp price Lexus commends
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It was a 27 month lease and I got the first 2015 IS delivered to the dealer when I leased it so I had it two years, Lexus sent a waiver on my last 3 payments.
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Interesting thread...I have to agree with the op. I could never see paying that much for a 4 cylinder when it is so closely priced to the 6. I read on other threads that the 350 is never going to be able to get many mods like Forced induction etc because of the engines high compression ratio which is a bummer. That being said, is the 200t capable of this now or down the road is the answer I'd like to be answered. Are there options to make the 200t a boosted monster...in which case I could see how its a better investment for the racer....but I'm truly not sure. Im happy with the 350 and the big thing everyone seems to be ignoring is the 200t is only available in rear wheel drive! Thats an absolute no no where I live...but it might be different for others. Hope this helps!
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That was most definitely an anomaly. My husband would probably have "won" and got the 467 hp over the 306 if it was just that close. But again, I can still see arguments for being perfectly fine with 306 hp. I just can't see the argument for a 4 banger.
There are plenty of people that really don't need 467 hp...that is overkill for a lot of people. A 6 cylinder is not overkill for anyone (IMHO) and the price difference isn't enough (again, IMHO) to make someone want a 4 over the 6. That's why I don't understand this option.
I am perfectly fine with my 306 hp. Truth be told, I would not have purchased the RC if it had the 4. Not for this kind of money--it simply doesn't compute for me. I just can't see spending nearly $50k (or even $40k) and driving away with 4 cylinders, period.
There are plenty of people that really don't need 467 hp...that is overkill for a lot of people. A 6 cylinder is not overkill for anyone (IMHO) and the price difference isn't enough (again, IMHO) to make someone want a 4 over the 6. That's why I don't understand this option.
I am perfectly fine with my 306 hp. Truth be told, I would not have purchased the RC if it had the 4. Not for this kind of money--it simply doesn't compute for me. I just can't see spending nearly $50k (or even $40k) and driving away with 4 cylinders, period.
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prime example happened just now. $54600 selling price on new rcf. With that price anyone purchasing another model is foolish for what you get int, ext and engine imo..
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Not really when the selling price of the 200t I bought is over 10k less than that, that is a LOT of money and then you have to consider insurance and fuel costs for that car as well. There is nothing foolish about wanting an attractive, nicely appointed car that financially makes better sense for those of us who don't want bigger car, gas and insurance payments. I honestly don't know why this is so hard to understand?
From a performance perspective, Lexus was in need of a FI option in their platforms. Once again, we're playing catch up with our competitors as they been at this game for a long time! We just joined the party and we're way behind. Once this ECU becomes tunable and more performance parts become available. The 200t will surpass the N/A 3.5 V6's performance numbers with ease. As you can see now the torque numbers aren't that far behind. With FI, hp and especially torque gains are easily achievable due to the nature of the different platforms.
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prime example happened just now. $54600 selling price on new rcf. With that price anyone purchasing another model is foolish for what you get int, ext and engine imo..
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rc-...ml#post9567873
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rc-...ml#post9567873
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From a performance perspective, Lexus was in need of a FI option in their platforms. Once again, we're playing catch up with our competitors as they been at this game for a long time! We just joined the party and we're way behind. Once this ECU becomes tunable and more performance parts become available. The 200t will surpass the N/A 3.5 V6's performance numbers with ease. As you can see now the torque numbers aren't that far behind. With FI, hp and especially torque gains are easily achievable due to the nature of the different platforms.
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LOL I know....its so simple. Some of us are trying to justify between the 6 and 4 (like the thread starter titled) and it all comes down to car options, potential future mods, personal financial situation and were talking in terms of a few thousand. This guys trying to put us all in RCF's which is wayyyyyy more hahah. I want one tho, Im not going to lie :P
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SUVI2k:
I take that you aren't that good at negotiating or don't like to do it like most car buyer. Understandable. Just don't discount others' skill doing it.
when I first got my Rcf at huge discount, everyone too said it wasn't possible and it must be a fluke..blah blah blah. I just laugh while looking at how much I saved
I take that you aren't that good at negotiating or don't like to do it like most car buyer. Understandable. Just don't discount others' skill doing it.
when I first got my Rcf at huge discount, everyone too said it wasn't possible and it must be a fluke..blah blah blah. I just laugh while looking at how much I saved
Interesting thread...I have to agree with the op. I could never see paying that much for a 4 cylinder when it is so closely priced to the 6. I read on other threads that the 350 is never going to be able to get many mods like Forced induction etc because of the engines high compression ratio which is a bummer. That being said, is the 200t capable of this now or down the road is the answer I'd like to be answered. Are there options to make the 200t a boosted monster...in which case I could see how its a better investment for the racer....but I'm truly not sure. Im happy with the 350 and the big thing everyone seems to be ignoring is the 200t is only available in rear wheel drive! Thats an absolute no no where I live...but it might be different for others. Hope this helps!
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LOL I know....its so simple. Some of us are trying to justify between the 6 and 4 (like the thread starter titled) and it all comes down to car options, potential future mods, personal financial situation and were talking in terms of a few thousand. This guys trying to put us all in RCF's which is wayyyyyy more hahah. I want one tho, Im not going to lie :P
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SUVI2k:
I take that you aren't that good at negotiating or don't like to do it like most car buyer. Understandable. Just don't discount others' skill doing it.
when I first got my Rcf at huge discount, everyone too said it wasn't possible and it must be a fluke..blah blah blah. I just laugh while looking at how much I saved
I take that you aren't that good at negotiating or don't like to do it like most car buyer. Understandable. Just don't discount others' skill doing it.
when I first got my Rcf at huge discount, everyone too said it wasn't possible and it must be a fluke..blah blah blah. I just laugh while looking at how much I saved