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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 11:52 AM
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The car started swirling left and right whenever i got to 110 km/h on fresh snow, i got original rims set used and balanced and the winter tires are fairly new good year, i have used the brand before with no issues.
i am wondering if the trac control has anything to do with it or the fact that i haven't connected the tire sensors (air pressure on dash) and during the summer when i installed the tired and wheels, if i pressed the gas to the bottom while going 60 km/h lets say, i would see on the dashboard that a tire was slipping, something that never happened before
Any thoughts?

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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Dsyyz
The car started swirling left and right whenever i got to 110 km/h on fresh snow, i got original rims set used and balanced and the winter tires are fairly new good year, i have used the brand before with no issues.
i am wondering if the trac control has anything to do with it or the fact that i haven't connected the tire sensors (air pressure on dash) and during the summer when i installed the tired and wheels, if i pressed the gas to the bottom while going 60 km/h lets say, i would see on the dashboard that a tire was slipping, something that never happened before
Any thoughts?
Is it an AWD or RWD? 110km/h (68mph) is pretty fast for being in the snow. I have a big 1 ton diesel truck with offroad tires and wont drive that fas tin snow/icey conditions.

TPMS sensors will not affect drive-ability. Traction control shouldn't be causing it, if it is, it should illuminate the traction control light on the dash.

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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 08:42 PM
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Yeah, don't drive 110 km/h on top of fresh snow.

The back end of my car even with fresh Blizzak WS-90s can slide out on fresh snow on unplowed roads if I hit an icy patch, and that's just starting out at an intersection.

Clarify swirling, you mean the front end is wandering from side to side?

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Old Jan 11, 2020 | 07:03 AM
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Given the OP is in Ontario, chances are the vehicle is AWD. Which still leaves the fact that the AWD is still more biased to being RWD.
The swirling you are describing is likely more commonly referred to as "fish tailing", meaning the back is sliding side to side while the vehicle is moving in a straight ahead direction.
I'm also gonna guess the OP has a 350 if that's happening at highway speeds.
The TPMS won't have an impact on the TRAC or VSC systems.

You mentioned you got an original set of wheels used, what set are they? The F Sport?
Most of us running snows try to downsize to 17 inch rims, to avoid having large snows on the 18 inch set...smaller the snows, better the traction.
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Old Jan 11, 2020 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Dsyyz
The car started swirling left and right whenever i got to 110 km/h on fresh snow, i got original rims set used and balanced and the winter tires are fairly new good year, i have used the brand before with no issues.
i am wondering if the trac control has anything to do with it or the fact that i haven't connected the tire sensors (air pressure on dash) and during the summer when i installed the tired and wheels, if i pressed the gas to the bottom while going 60 km/h lets say, i would see on the dashboard that a tire was slipping, something that never happened before
Any thoughts?
1. Out of alignment can be a contributing factor.
2. Are your tires of the same pattern (orientation) on both sides of your car?
3. 70mph might be a bit too fast for snow.

I think my car tends to do the same in snow. Snow/ice surface has unevenness that the car hits with its tires at different moments and that creates uneven forces that kind of “steer” the car a bit in random (for you) directions. w You could perceive it as the car lurching left and right a bit as you drive. Probably nothing is wrong with it other than the fact that you drive on snow at 70 mph (110kmh). Braking distances will be very long....
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