Cams for V8 gs
I'm not sure of many, if ANY shops in the USA that are qualified to regrind a 1uz-fe or 3uz-fe VVt-I cam. There are just not many (if any) that have enough experience to make recommendations on anything to do with VVt-I cams. It can be physically done, sure, but that doesn't mean that it'll be done right and to the owners adantage. There's a strong chance that it may be detrimental. If anyone knows of a reputable cam builder that regrind 1uz and 3uz VVt-I cams, let me know because so far, they havent' surfaced.
The VVt-I is a little stuck unfortunately, as far as cams go, since there are no upgrades as of yet. For the Non VVt-I 1uz, there are a few options, however. Kelford would be rated the best since they start from billets.
Eric
The VVt-I is a little stuck unfortunately, as far as cams go, since there are no upgrades as of yet. For the Non VVt-I 1uz, there are a few options, however. Kelford would be rated the best since they start from billets.
Eric
Originally Posted by Lextreme
I dont think they will work on the VVTi. You can contact Kelford directly for special price. However, I don't think they have it for the VVTi. You can also regrind them at your local engine builder for about $400 a set (Yes four pieces).
JPI Racing
Originally Posted by JPI
Show me where to regrind the cams for these prices. You have to measure the lifts and do a little bit of calcalution to get it right.
JPI Racing
JPI Racing
Please PM me so i can give you my source. Just give him the specs u want.
Regrinding them, possibly I could see for $400.00 per set, although those are still bargain basement prices. However, the 'uz-fe family of V8s suffers from lack of lift and lack of duration. Regrinding definitely doesn't give you any more lift, and if anything would take a little away.
Hardwelding is something totally different and can completely change the profile. Hardwelding applies a hard nickel based tri-alloy to the already super hard nodular iron cam. Because of the materials that experienced cam builders use, the erosion and abbrasion factors are greatly reduced. Hardwelded is usually very costly as it very labor intensive, and required much experience to perfrom correctly.
If you're paying $400.00 for a set of VVt-I cams, then I wish the best of luck, and buyer beware. Be sure you know every aspect of who is building your cams, and why the price is so cheap.
Eric
Hardwelding is something totally different and can completely change the profile. Hardwelding applies a hard nickel based tri-alloy to the already super hard nodular iron cam. Because of the materials that experienced cam builders use, the erosion and abbrasion factors are greatly reduced. Hardwelded is usually very costly as it very labor intensive, and required much experience to perfrom correctly.
If you're paying $400.00 for a set of VVt-I cams, then I wish the best of luck, and buyer beware. Be sure you know every aspect of who is building your cams, and why the price is so cheap.
Eric
Originally Posted by c0wboy
Regrinding them, possibly I could see for $400.00 per set, although those are still bargain basement prices. However, the 'uz-fe family of V8s suffers from lack of lift and lack of duration. Regrinding definitely doesn't give you any more lift, and if anything would take a little away.
Hardwelding is something totally different and can completely change the profile. Hardwelding applies a hard nickel based tri-alloy to the already super hard nodular iron cam. Because of the materials that experienced cam builders use, the erosion and abbrasion factors are greatly reduced. Hardwelded is usually very costly as it very labor intensive, and required much experience to perfrom correctly.
If you're paying $400.00 for a set of VVt-I cams, then I wish the best of luck, and buyer beware. Be sure you know every aspect of who is building your cams, and why the price is so cheap.
Eric
Hardwelding is something totally different and can completely change the profile. Hardwelding applies a hard nickel based tri-alloy to the already super hard nodular iron cam. Because of the materials that experienced cam builders use, the erosion and abbrasion factors are greatly reduced. Hardwelded is usually very costly as it very labor intensive, and required much experience to perfrom correctly.
If you're paying $400.00 for a set of VVt-I cams, then I wish the best of luck, and buyer beware. Be sure you know every aspect of who is building your cams, and why the price is so cheap.
Eric
Originally Posted by GSteg
Crower regrind cams. Though I dont know how good they are with vvti cams.
Originally Posted by c0wboy
Regrinding them, possibly I could see for $400.00 per set, although those are still bargain basement prices. However, the 'uz-fe family of V8s suffers from lack of lift and lack of duration. Regrinding definitely doesn't give you any more lift, and if anything would take a little away.
Hardwelding is something totally different and can completely change the profile. Hardwelding applies a hard nickel based tri-alloy to the already super hard nodular iron cam. Because of the materials that experienced cam builders use, the erosion and abbrasion factors are greatly reduced. Hardwelded is usually very costly as it very labor intensive, and required much experience to perfrom correctly.
If you're paying $400.00 for a set of VVt-I cams, then I wish the best of luck, and buyer beware. Be sure you know every aspect of who is building your cams, and why the price is so cheap.
Eric
Hardwelding is something totally different and can completely change the profile. Hardwelding applies a hard nickel based tri-alloy to the already super hard nodular iron cam. Because of the materials that experienced cam builders use, the erosion and abbrasion factors are greatly reduced. Hardwelded is usually very costly as it very labor intensive, and required much experience to perfrom correctly.
If you're paying $400.00 for a set of VVt-I cams, then I wish the best of luck, and buyer beware. Be sure you know every aspect of who is building your cams, and why the price is so cheap.
Eric
Last edited by Lextreme; May 6, 2006 at 04:09 PM.
Ummm, yeah brotha... Aftermarket cam PROFILES....Not new cams.... You sure are confusing when you get upset. But thanks for the link to that thread. That's kind of you.
If you look at Hollywoods above link to Crower, you'll see that their pricing is pretty much on par with the community. Lift can be accomplished via shims, and grinding the base circle down, however this stopgap solution is not the proper way to go. If you think it is, then you and "your team" need to rethink how a high HP engine comes together.
Anywhich way, it seems you have nothing constructive to say. Only negative.
Eric
If you look at Hollywoods above link to Crower, you'll see that their pricing is pretty much on par with the community. Lift can be accomplished via shims, and grinding the base circle down, however this stopgap solution is not the proper way to go. If you think it is, then you and "your team" need to rethink how a high HP engine comes together.
Anywhich way, it seems you have nothing constructive to say. Only negative.
Eric
Last edited by c0wboy; May 6, 2006 at 10:20 PM.
Originally Posted by c0wboy
Ummm, yeah brotha... Aftermarket cam PROFILES....Not new cams.... You sure are confusing when you get upset. But thanks for the link to that thread. That's kind of you.
If you look at Hollywoods above link to Crower, you'll see that their pricing is pretty much on par with the community. Lift can be accomplished via shims, and grinding the base circle down, however this stopgap solution is not the proper way to go. If you think it is, then you and "your team" need to rethink how a high HP engine comes together.
Anywhich way, it seems you have nothing constructive to say. Only negative.
Eric
If you look at Hollywoods above link to Crower, you'll see that their pricing is pretty much on par with the community. Lift can be accomplished via shims, and grinding the base circle down, however this stopgap solution is not the proper way to go. If you think it is, then you and "your team" need to rethink how a high HP engine comes together.
Anywhich way, it seems you have nothing constructive to say. Only negative.
Eric
Oh by the way, the Brand New After Market 2uzfe cam (lie) what is it working?
Does it fit?
Any knocking?
How much hp does it increase?
What size of shim under the bucket if it would need?
What type of spring would work with it?
Would it affect the pistons?
How would it idle?
What rpm is the power band?
You can not answer those questions because you dont know. You have never try the cams on a live engine. Honestly speaking, I have nothing against you, but I just think you are little too aggressive in marketing your products. Slow down and let your products speak for itself.
Last edited by Lextreme; May 6, 2006 at 11:19 PM.
Originally Posted by Lextreme
The link is not a problem. I just dont want CL members get hurt by your false advertisements and deceptive business practice. That is all.... now its all up to the readers. I know you the first hand. Especially in our forum. So lets not go there.
Originally Posted by Lextreme
Oh by the way, the Brand New After Market 2uzfe cam (lie) what is it working?
Originally Posted by Lextreme
Does it fit?
Originally Posted by LEXTREME
Any knocking?
Originally Posted by Lextreme
How much hp does it increase?
Originally Posted by Lextreme
What size of shim under the bucket if it would need?
Originally Posted by LExtreme
What type of spring would work with it?
Originally Posted by Lextreme
Would it affect the pistons?
Originally Posted by Lextreme
How would it idle?
Originally Posted by Lextreme
What rpm is the power band?
Originally Posted by Lextreme
You can not answer those questions because you dont know. You have never try the cams on a live engine. Honestly speaking, I have nothing against you, but I just think you are little too aggressive in marketing your products. Slow down and let your products speak for itself.
Now I hope this ends our little discussion, and I hope all of your questions have been answered.
Eric
Its obvious that you couldn't answer my questions directly. You answered from a theorical point of view. By the way, we know how you run your business. I noticed you are selling the Size Image Twin plenum intake manifold. Has it been tested yet? LOL.. but you are selling it.... Give me break. Buyers beware is all i can say and this thread is not going anywhere. It should be closed.
Last edited by Lextreme; May 7, 2006 at 11:39 AM.
Originally Posted by c0wboy
There is no need to try all 15 cam profiles, and endless combinations since these cams have already been put through extensive testing by the parent cam builder. Even if we did, it would be pointless since every motor is different. That's the main advantage of NOT going with some Joe Blow machinist who says he can regrind your cams for $400.00. The legwork is already done, tested, and holding the checkard flag.
Eric
Originally Posted by Lextreme
Its obvious that you couldn't answer my questions directly. You answered from a theorical point of view. By the way, we know how you run your business. I noticed you are selling the Size Image Twin plenum intake manifold. Has it been tested yet? LOL.. but you are selling it.... Give me break. Buyers beware is all i can say and this thread is not going anywhere. It should be closed.
Werd. I woudln't want this thread to go down in the dumps. I'm interested in the cams because I think that's one step towards getting more power (especially for NA).
This one guy gained 8whp with just a regrind on his 3.2L V6 with very little response to mods. (no variable valve timing). That's with intake and stock exhaust piping.
I'm sure if we can find a way to work around the vvti mess, 4.0L+ V8 would make at least 15whp, depending on how agressive the cams are. That in addition to i/h/e, holy crap I can't even possibly think of the gains.
[/dreaming]
This one guy gained 8whp with just a regrind on his 3.2L V6 with very little response to mods. (no variable valve timing). That's with intake and stock exhaust piping.
I'm sure if we can find a way to work around the vvti mess, 4.0L+ V8 would make at least 15whp, depending on how agressive the cams are. That in addition to i/h/e, holy crap I can't even possibly think of the gains.[/dreaming]


