Tt ffim
04-27-10, 09:21 AM
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Tt ffim
So I'm going to tackle this next ive read how "turbodreamz" has fabricated his. My question is my stock TB is HUUUGE and bulky, plus would rather have one that just bolts rite up while retaining a TPS, Does the TT one work my guess is yes also does the Infinity Q45 bolt rite up?
04-27-10, 10:00 AM
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Yes the stock TB is bulky..I have been wondering about the stock USDM TT TB and if the tps can be swapped or just plug and play, but I have no idea about the q45 tb..really wish I had more info to share on the TB topic, but if you have any questions feel free to ask.
. Knew I shoulda just went with a swap
05-06-10, 07:13 PM
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so the manifold does just bolt right up if you remove the lower runners and match it up right? Cuz I just bought a supra manifold to eliminate the retarded middle feed one and need to be sure it will work before I do any major teardown.
05-06-10, 09:55 PM
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turbodremz you have to remove the lower runners to get the exact fit. remove the lowers, bolt them to the GTE upper then look at it again and you will notice a big difference from what your looking at there. Seems very discouraging, but trust me they line up.
05-07-10, 08:43 AM
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you could get a sheet of like 1/8 aluminum and make a flange. just cut out the 6 holes with a hole saw and drill out the mounting bolts. thats way both sides will have something flat to seal against where there is overlap.
the reason i abandoned the project right after i basically started it is the hole for the mismatched runners will have to be smaller than the other runners, unless you can do some serious work. there is no way you can safely say its not changing the amount of air that will enter those runners.
Even though I could technically run individual cylinder fuel trims with the ems, I didn't think it was a good idea to sacrifice flow to gain a ffim. whole point of ffim is the flow.
the reason i abandoned the project right after i basically started it is the hole for the mismatched runners will have to be smaller than the other runners, unless you can do some serious work. there is no way you can safely say its not changing the amount of air that will enter those runners.
Even though I could technically run individual cylinder fuel trims with the ems, I didn't think it was a good idea to sacrifice flow to gain a ffim. whole point of ffim is the flow.
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05-07-10, 09:23 AM
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^+ That's why i never bother trying the TT stock manifold, you better off just spend $700 an aftermarket FFIM that works 100%.
I thought about it, for me it was a waste of time trying to half *** stuff....
I thought about it, for me it was a waste of time trying to half *** stuff....
05-07-10, 03:45 PM
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you dont need to fabricate anything. The way the gasket sits in those pictures, isnt how the runners line up, sounds odd I know. Yes the runners are off, but not to where anything needs to fabricated/welded/cut/etc..I know its a huge pain to remove the lower runners, but its well worth it. You get to see exactly how everything lines up, inspect your starter, and everything under the runners and possibly tuck some of the harness if you want to take the time.
05-07-10, 04:14 PM
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you can make an adapter plate to fit just about anything, but the 2JZ-GTE upper will bolt to the stock lower GE runners with very very little work.
As for the stock 7MGTE runners, I have no idea how well they would line up to the ports on the GE head, so that might be a bit much, but you would have to compare the runners side by side.
As for the stock 7MGTE runners, I have no idea how well they would line up to the ports on the GE head, so that might be a bit much, but you would have to compare the runners side by side.
05-07-10, 05:01 PM
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pretty much, but when it comes to the runners, you dont want too much of a difference for flow restriction purposes.
I just wish now that I would have taken more pictures for member reference when using the GTE manifold with the stock lower runners.
I just wish now that I would have taken more pictures for member reference when using the GTE manifold with the stock lower runners.
05-07-10, 05:02 PM
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turbodremz you dont need to fabricate anything. The way the gasket sits in those pictures, isnt how the runners line up, sounds odd I know. Yes the runners are off, but not to where anything needs to fabricated/welded/cut/etc..I know its a huge pain to remove the lower runners, but its well worth it. You get to see exactly how everything lines up, inspect your starter, and everything under the runners and possibly tuck some of the harness if you want to take the time.