Selected N/A Turbo Choice
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Selected N/A Turbo Choice
So, I've decided to run with this: http://www.xs-power.co.uk/index.php?...71c6191c442410 as my Turbo kit. Now, I will be installing this myself as a month project in my free time. The car will be driven daily with some fun on the side, if ya know what I mean. Any proper methods of setting it up, or anything I'd need(Such as additional materials) would be great. If you can recommend a better Turbo setup for a better or identical price, let me know. Also, since I've never installed a Turbo before; even though it's a N/A Turbo setup; I'd still like to know if I need to purchase ANYTHING additionally with this setup. The engine it will be running with is a pure stock SC300 2000 with a 2JZ-GE, so any tips would be awesome, as to help me out. Also note my grammar may not be perfect, this because I'm writing this with 2 hours of sleep...
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-Matt
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-Matt
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Hmmm... How much power are you trying get out of this?
let's see.... off the top of my head you are also going to want/need:
gauges
engine management system
exhaust
intercooler
intercooler piping
t-bolt clamps
silicone hoses
steel braided oil lines
boost controller
fuel pump and injectors (if you're trying to get some high horses)
turbo timer
I'm sure I'm missing a few things.. but those are the basics..
let's see.... off the top of my head you are also going to want/need:
gauges
engine management system
exhaust
intercooler
intercooler piping
t-bolt clamps
silicone hoses
steel braided oil lines
boost controller
fuel pump and injectors (if you're trying to get some high horses)
turbo timer
I'm sure I'm missing a few things.. but those are the basics..
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save your money and go for a boostlogic or powerhouse racing na-t kit. I guarantee you will be happy you did down the line. Although xs power kits are cheap and get the job done, (no disrespect to xspower) the majority of people that go with their kit end up having major problems, spending a truckload more moeny then they thought they would, and ending with a result that isn't as impressive as they'd hoped. You truly get what you pay for with car parts, and if you are a skilled and experienced turbo guru or mechanic, you may be able to get away with buying parts on the cheap and bringing everything together in one engine bay to run like a champ. But anyone that has gone with a cheap turbo kit and then changed setups down the line, it is truly the better way to go, and they will all advise you to skip the initial cheapo kits. I know the price looks great and you will never be able to see down the line, but take it as serious advise from me (the guy that owns the car in your avatar)
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And when I look at the Boostlogic setup, I question whether I will get exactly what I want out of it. I may sound nuts, but I refuse to stick anything in my engine unless I know it will provide sufficient gains over its stock setup and little problem, if any at all. Like I said, I must sound crazy, but hopefulyl you understand why.
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i'm sorry, i am a little confused, what exactly can you get from the xs power kit that you can't get from the boostlogic. Other than saving a couple bucks, (which i believe doesn't actually play out down the line) i see no benefit to the xs power kit. Whereas the boostlogic kits are far more complete and on an entirely different level of build quality coming from an established company that has proven their product's reliability and performance a thousand times over on the track and street. I would stand beside a BL or PHR kit to flow alot better, take a lot more abuse, last longer, look nicer and make more power. You also have the customer support on your side. The car in your avatar has a boostlogic stage 1 kit, except it has been modified, i am essentially adding parts that are included in the stage 2 kit (injectors, headgasket, headstuds etc.), and it's also got a nice 67mm dbb turbo on it. I don't see the downside of this kit? Can you please elaborate.
If you wish to go with the xs power kit and your all set on it, go for it. More power to you, and i wish you the best of luck. I just like to see things done right, and generally when you do things right the first time, you end up saving money down the line. So i am mainly commenting on your comment "If you can recommend a better Turbo setup for a better or identical price" because it is my strong belief that going with a better kit will save you money in the long run.
If you wish to go with the xs power kit and your all set on it, go for it. More power to you, and i wish you the best of luck. I just like to see things done right, and generally when you do things right the first time, you end up saving money down the line. So i am mainly commenting on your comment "If you can recommend a better Turbo setup for a better or identical price" because it is my strong belief that going with a better kit will save you money in the long run.
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Are concerned with quality of your kit? Google the turbo that the kit comes with. Some people have had success with it, but I'm at the same time, A LOT of people have had those turbos fail on them from the get-go. What about the wastegate? Would you trust your motor to a no-name wastegate?
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Well, as of further elaborations on everyone's part, I'm now eying this little number: http://www.boostlogic.com/xcart/prod...&cat=66&page=1
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thats whats on mine, everythings is great with that kit. I would recommend however, that you go ahead and take the hints of the stage 2 kit. I am not saying buy the stage 2, as i think the injectors and headgasket that come with it are overpriced and those parts are available from other name brands for cheaper. For instance, i would go ahead and buy a tt headgasket, arp headstuds and rx7 550cc injectors. Those extra parts shouldn't set you back more than 500 bucks and you could probably get ahold of everything for under 350 in this economy. With those upgrades you won't really have anything holding you back engine wise if your planning to stay in the powerlimits of the tranny in your sc. Of course if i were you i would also change the plugs, the timing belt, the waterpump, thermostat, all the fluids etc, and i might even get a performance radiator. Once all thats done i'd go ahead and focus on the rear end, and down the line maybe the tranny. Overall i hope you choose to go with the BL kit, i think it will serve you well, and if you have anymore questions please pm me or anyone else on the forums, we are always happy to help.
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This will eliminate any nay sayers:
http://www.full-race.com/catalog/pro...oducts_id=1765
Of course it only includes manifold, turbo and wastegates, but you get what you pay for.
http://www.full-race.com/catalog/pro...oducts_id=1765
Of course it only includes manifold, turbo and wastegates, but you get what you pay for.
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doing an engine swap seems like alot of work, but i wish i'd done it instead of picking up an na-t car. It would be so much nicer to have the spark plugs and injectors right there, the aftermarket support would be phenomenal, i might even end up switching to gte down the line.
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no intercooler piping on the XS kit, so youre on your own there. id def go with the boost logic kit. the oil return line on the XS kit runs basically next to the manifold and, well, rubber against a turbo/manifold is a big no no. haha. and it looks like the BL kit comes with IC piping and the union bolt for the turbo feed line. granted you can order the union bolt from toyota and do the IC piping yourself, but, the XS kit comes with a bunch of knock off parts, like the waste gate and blow off valve. like someone above said, you get what you pay for.