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Old 04-07-16, 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeW83
TeaAholic1 and I were just discussing something similar on another thread the other day. In Australia, they have the RX200t, which I personally couldn't conceptualize. I would think it would be soo pokey and sluggish.
I personally haven't driven the 2.0t from Lexus, and I am planning to when I am free from work. But from what I've heard, the 200t has quite a bit more power than the 300h so I don't see why it's strange that there is a RX 200t.

I suppose if you look at the grand scheme of things, the RX, being the flagship SUV (LX doesn't count as I think that's a different market) and compare it to the X5, GLE/ML, Q7, there isn't a lot of small engines on offer. But for those mums who want to use them as taxis for their children, the 200t I think is plenty.

On another note, most RX's here are the 350, I really haven't seen many 200t or 450h.

For the NX, I see maybe 60% 200t and 40% 300h. Pretty much 50/50. I imagine it's 300h bias in Europe and 200t in the US?
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Originally Posted by TeaAholic1
For the NX, I see maybe 60% 200t and 40% 300h. Pretty much 50/50. I imagine it's 300h bias in Europe and 200t in the US?
On that point I think you're probably close. I've seen nothing but 200t's on the road lately. Which is nice, because for a while there if you saw one it was like seeing a unicorn! I don't think I've ever actually seen a 300h on the roads here. And I live in the 3rd largest city in the country, where Lexus has a sizeable foothold.

As for the RX200t, I just looked up the curb weight. Surprisingly, the RX200t is 1890kg (4166lbs) and the NX's curb weight is 3940-4180lbs. So I totally get it now. Our heaviest RX is 4700lbs, and I assumed the 200t would still be fairly close to that number. It's a shame VW killed the market for diesels in America. If they hadn't, I wonder if a RX d would have worked to fight off the X5 even more. Probably would give them a stronger market share in Europe, too.
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Originally Posted by TeaAholic1

For the NX, I see maybe 60% 200t and 40% 300h. Pretty much 50/50. I imagine it's 300h bias in Europe and 200t in the US?
In Europe I see 95% 300h here. the issue is the Tax.

the 300h starts from 45,000.- USD
the 200t starts from 75,000.- USD

so you get an 200t is very expensive
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I hope they add 8 speed transmission and I will buy
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I hope they add 8 speed transmission and I will buy
100% with you on that!
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I was able to test drive against some of the competition at a special lexus event but was turned off by the 6 speed.

I still liked the car but I was leaning towards sedan

Once my lease ends in late 2017/early 2018, I will be looking at luxury crossovers and hoping that nx is a top choice
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I hope they come up with something closer to 280hp, like the Lincoln MXC with the 2.3L engine. I spent the day driving an IS 350 Fsport as a loaner while my NX was in for an oil change. Nice car, engine sounds great but power was still disappointing . Felt less responsive then my C250 with a1.8L turbo 4.
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If they put a V6 in the NX it better be the 2GR-FE or something at least in that category, which is the one in the ES350, 280hp. 8 speed transmission would be good for fuel economy but 6 speed is fine too.
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Originally Posted by acheuk
If they put a V6 in the NX it better be the 2GR-FE or something at least in that category, which is the one in the ES350, 280hp. 8 speed transmission would be good for fuel economy but 6 speed is fine too.
I would not change my car for only a 20 h.p. gain with the v6. Frankly I am very surprised by the smoothness of the 4 and it is peppy enough. The future is in the 4's in order to make emissions in years to come. I read a great long article on the 4 and came away very impressed. A lot of thought went into this engine. If anything they will probably increase th h.p. On the 4. You can get quite a lot of h.p. Out of a 4. I know it's still a 4 but a very good one at that.

To b honest though if I have a need for speed I take a blast in my Z06 and I'm satisfied.

Happy Motoring!
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i find the 200t has enough power for day-to-day driving. what i'd like to see is less turbo lag.
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Originally Posted by SteveDeech
I would not change my car for only a 20 h.p. gain with the v6. Frankly I am very surprised by the smoothness of the 4 and it is peppy enough. The future is in the 4's in order to make emissions in years to come. I read a great long article on the 4 and came away very impressed. A lot of thought went into this engine. If anything they will probably increase th h.p. On the 4. You can get quite a lot of h.p. Out of a 4. I know it's still a 4 but a very good one at that.

To b honest though if I have a need for speed I take a blast in my Z06 and I'm satisfied.

Happy Motoring!
I read almost every article about our turbo 4 on the Internet and I know it packs quite a bit of technology. However, the v6 is more like 40+hp more and if Lexus retune the turbo to increase hp it will also increase emissions and decrease fuel economy which at the end of the day about the same as the v6. I'll take the v6 over our turbo quite honestly.
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Originally Posted by acheuk
I read almost every article about our turbo 4 on the Internet and I know it packs quite a bit of technology. However, the v6 is more like 40+hp more and if Lexus retune the turbo to increase hp it will also increase emissions and decrease fuel economy which at the end of the day about the same as the v6. I'll take the v6 over our turbo quite honestly.
It is not 40hp. It is 20hp. They would use the IS smaller six which is 255 hp. To me, spending 5k more for a v6 is crazy not alone you will get less gas mileage than the turbo 4.

Don't sell the 4 short. Technology wise it blows away the six by far.. You are talking to someone that loves the six but, in truth all of the major manufacturers are going with beefed up 4's in order to pass government epa's of the future. I am really not a 4 kind of person but I am impressed with the new Lexus 4. You really need to research all of the information out there. Most professionals are raving about the new 4.

As for increasing the power of the 4 giving you lower fuel economy. You can't have it both ways. Either way you are going to pay either way, 4 or 6.
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Originally Posted by SteveDeech
It is not 40hp. It is 20hp. They would use the IS smaller six which is 255 hp. To me, spending 5k more for a v6 is crazy not alone you will get less gas mileage than the turbo 4.

Don't sell the 4 short. Technology wise it blows away the six by far.. You are talking to someone that loves the six but, in truth all of the major manufacturers are going with beefed up 4's in order to pass government epa's of the future. I am really not a 4 kind of person but I am impressed with the new Lexus 4. You really need to research all of the information out there. Most professionals are raving about the new 4.

As for increasing the power of the 4 giving you lower fuel economy. You can't have it both ways. Either way you are going to pay either way, 4 or 6.
I was talking about the v6 (2GR-FE) from es350/rx350 which rated at 270hp and 35hp more than the Nx, then I would be interested, not the v6 from the IS300.

I think you missed my point. If an equal hp and equal mpg turbo 4 vs a v6, I'll take the v6 with zero turbo lag and silky smooth/quiet. I don't need all those turbo components, it simply makes things more complicated to repair. Also, note that the v6 takes regular unleaded instead of premium, and depending on where you live it could save up to $10 per tank.

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Originally Posted by acheuk
I was talking about the v6 (2GR-FE) from es350/rx350 which rated at 270hp and 35hp more than the Nx, then I would be interested, not the v6 from the IS300.

I think you missed my point. If an equal hp and equal mpg turbo 4 vs a v6, I'll take the v6 with zero turbo lag and silky smooth/quiet. I don't need all those turbo components, it simply makes things more complicated to repair. Also, note that the v6 takes regular unleaded instead of premium, and depending on where you live it could save up to $10 per tank.
I believe what I read talks about the IS v6 as being the 6 they are considering. Not sure though.

If I were the manufacturer I don't think they would closely relate the two car. They have to maintain a difference in the both cars. That's why it would make more sense to use the is motor in the NX. Anything is possible I guess.

As fo gas mileage I am getting at least 27 miles per around town. The max you will get with the new RX is 22.
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