The 2022 NX and Theft
Rookie
Joined: Mar 2022
Posts: 38
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From: N/A
Just turn off the signal from your key fob when you park and lock the car.
Step 1. Press and hold down on the lock button.
Step 2. While holding down the lock button, double click the unlock button.
You will see the red light on your key fob flash for a couple of seconds, when you see this the signal will no longer be coming out of your key fob, and it can't be used for keyless entry anymore (try opening your door after you do this). To activate that signal once again, simply press unlock on the key fob.
Instructor
Joined: May 2021
Posts: 836
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From: ca
This faraday bag is a new thing to me and what I’m wondering is if the car is 10 miles from the key fob (or two or one or 100 etc.) there’s no need for the bag, right they would not be able to hack the key because of the distance of the key to the car?
Instructor
Joined: May 2021
Posts: 836
Likes: 80
From: ca
I have a simple solution for this. I had a faraday pouch and it got annoying over time having to pull out my key fob out of the pouch.
Just turn off the signal from your key fob when you park and lock the car.
Step 1. Press and hold down on the lock button.
Step 2. While holding down the lock button, double click the unlock button.
You will see the red light on your key fob flash for a couple of seconds, when you see this the signal will no longer be coming out of your key fob, and it can't be used for keyless entry anymore (try opening your door after you do this). To activate that signal once again, simply press unlock on the key fob.
Just turn off the signal from your key fob when you park and lock the car.
Step 1. Press and hold down on the lock button.
Step 2. While holding down the lock button, double click the unlock button.
You will see the red light on your key fob flash for a couple of seconds, when you see this the signal will no longer be coming out of your key fob, and it can't be used for keyless entry anymore (try opening your door after you do this). To activate that signal once again, simply press unlock on the key fob.
Driver
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 66
Likes: 24
From: PA
Got my NX 450h about three weeks ago.
Yesterday, I took my car to the dealership for its first service and spoke to the service manager. Basically, I was asking the same questions about theft, faraday boxes, scanners etc. he said that new NX and other new models come with new key fobs that make it more difficult to steal. They have new encryption with rolling codes when each time key fob and your vehicle initiated contact, encryption keys are rolled and previously scanned key to open the door will not work when you try to start the car. You must have a key fob with you with new authentication codes. Now, the weak link of course, once a thief gained access to your car, he can use a computer to connect to obd port and to program his key fob…
Also, some new computers can be used to unlock the without even having a key fob. So, faraday pouches are not useful in such cases. It’s a brave new world…
I think, the best we can do is to make the process of stealing the car more difficult. These are fairly inexpensive solutions will likely dissuade a thief from trying to steal your car. Start form purchasing faraday box/pouch, installing obd port locks or, fake/dummy obd devices with tamper alarm, installing second alarms with immobilizers, good old mechanical solutions like steering wheel lock, pedal lock, mechanical immobilizer switch.
Here is inexpensive and cool dummy obd with a siren.
https://www.dummyobd.com
Yesterday, I took my car to the dealership for its first service and spoke to the service manager. Basically, I was asking the same questions about theft, faraday boxes, scanners etc. he said that new NX and other new models come with new key fobs that make it more difficult to steal. They have new encryption with rolling codes when each time key fob and your vehicle initiated contact, encryption keys are rolled and previously scanned key to open the door will not work when you try to start the car. You must have a key fob with you with new authentication codes. Now, the weak link of course, once a thief gained access to your car, he can use a computer to connect to obd port and to program his key fob…
Also, some new computers can be used to unlock the without even having a key fob. So, faraday pouches are not useful in such cases. It’s a brave new world…
I think, the best we can do is to make the process of stealing the car more difficult. These are fairly inexpensive solutions will likely dissuade a thief from trying to steal your car. Start form purchasing faraday box/pouch, installing obd port locks or, fake/dummy obd devices with tamper alarm, installing second alarms with immobilizers, good old mechanical solutions like steering wheel lock, pedal lock, mechanical immobilizer switch.
Here is inexpensive and cool dummy obd with a siren.
https://www.dummyobd.com
Driver
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 50
Likes: 14
From: Ontario
Just fyi from what your dealer said it sounds like he doesn’t understand how the attack works. The way the the thieves work is that they have a box that basically amplifies and relays the signal from your key fob that is stored in your house to the car in your drive. Having unique rolling codes won’t help, its not they they are recording old codes, the box simply transmits whatever the new code is from the fob each time. This is why you need a faraday pouch/box to protect your keys.
Driver
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 50
Likes: 14
From: Ontario
I bought Disklock small size. Link below:
Pit Crew
Joined: Nov 2022
Posts: 120
Likes: 6
From: ON
I bought Disklock small size. Link below:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XS...13NParams&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XS...13NParams&th=1
Only other concerns are from the reviews which I'm not sure what happen for both situations:
1) Unfortunately, over a 7-day trip and installing it every night, the morning became rather worrisome when I have to struggle to unlock it. 10 to 15 minutes of pure panic is a bit much. This did not happen every time, but it was enough to cause some stress.
2) Defective lock
Driver
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 50
Likes: 14
From: Ontario
Thanks for the link. It is a bit pricey at approx. $200, but it's for a piece of mind.
Only other concerns are from the reviews which I'm not sure what happen for both situations:
1) Unfortunately, over a 7-day trip and installing it every night, the morning became rather worrisome when I have to struggle to unlock it. 10 to 15 minutes of pure panic is a bit much. This did not happen every time, but it was enough to cause some stress.
2) Defective lock
Only other concerns are from the reviews which I'm not sure what happen for both situations:
1) Unfortunately, over a 7-day trip and installing it every night, the morning became rather worrisome when I have to struggle to unlock it. 10 to 15 minutes of pure panic is a bit much. This did not happen every time, but it was enough to cause some stress.
2) Defective lock
It’s pricey but, IMHO it’s far more secure than second best rated Stoplok, link below.
Pit Crew
Joined: Nov 2022
Posts: 120
Likes: 6
From: ON
Some people get it some don’t. My wife struggled once until I sat her down and showed how this lock works… after that she has no problems. This lock has shifting independent cylinders that can be moved from vertical alignment. The focus is to be careful and to try not to spin the key before you fully insert it. And, if you did that, just carefully rotate the key pushing it down while rotating. This is a security feature that makes it difficult to pick the lock. Same system is in my Kryptonite bike lock.
It’s pricey but, IMHO it’s far more secure than second best rated Stoplok, link below.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003S...1GJZM3EQ&psc=1
It’s pricey but, IMHO it’s far more secure than second best rated Stoplok, link below.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003S...1GJZM3EQ&psc=1
Driver
Joined: Jul 2022
Posts: 50
Likes: 14
From: Ontario
Racer
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 1,387
Likes: 349
From: ON
I mentioned it before, but most insurance companies, at least in Ontario, offer full replacement for a certain number of years. There is no catch, not some close replacement, a new car.
It is not expensive, I just paid $26.00 extra for this year starting Nov 2022-Nov 2023.
Earlier in the thread midcow3 questioned this, so I checked again as it had been years, and checked again when I picked up my RX, all good!
Doesn't hurt to have additional tools to protect your vehicle but check with your insurance carrier.
Cheers
It is not expensive, I just paid $26.00 extra for this year starting Nov 2022-Nov 2023.
Earlier in the thread midcow3 questioned this, so I checked again as it had been years, and checked again when I picked up my RX, all good!
Doesn't hurt to have additional tools to protect your vehicle but check with your insurance carrier.
Cheers
Intermediate
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 437
Likes: 225
From: Canadian Pacific Coast
I mentioned it before, but most insurance companies, at least in Ontario, offer full replacement for a certain number of years. There is no catch, not some close replacement, a new car.
It is not expensive, I just paid $26.00 extra for this year starting Nov 2022-Nov 2023.
Earlier in the thread midcow3 questioned this, so I checked again as it had been years, and checked again when I picked up my RX, all good!
Doesn't hurt to have additional tools to protect your vehicle but check with your insurance carrier.
Cheers
It is not expensive, I just paid $26.00 extra for this year starting Nov 2022-Nov 2023.
Earlier in the thread midcow3 questioned this, so I checked again as it had been years, and checked again when I picked up my RX, all good!
Doesn't hurt to have additional tools to protect your vehicle but check with your insurance carrier.
Cheers