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Question: Do the electric motors in the hybrid NXs make them smoother than the turbo and normally asperated engines in the NXs ?
In a very general sense, in slower city driving, the answer is yes. More a result of the transmission than the addition of a turbo though. But at highway speeds, when the internal combustion engine is fully engaged - say on a good steep hill, there is unlikely much if any difference. I don’t know if the turbo would be any noisier or “smoother” when engaging. This is something you may need to determine after a test drive of each platform as I can only speculate.
Interestingly, my salesguy tried to tell me it's not possible to special order a Lexus. Maybe he meant that it's not possible to special order an NX right now, but I thought I made it clear that I might be interested in ordering one down the line to get the exact options I want. I'd already spent enough time there today, so I didn't explore the issue further.
Pretty much this is what all salespeople are telling their customers. Custom orders are very rare and I was told worst-case scenario it could be another year till they are taken again.
I spent a little time today going over all the available options and configurations to work out exactly what I do and don't want in my car, and sent that list over to my salesguy, asking him to let me know if/when he has something I might be interested in. It wasn't two hours later that he wrote back and indicated that he had a car that met my requirements - I've included the sticker here for everyone's reading pleasure.
My requirements were:
Must-have options
Premium package (ventilated seats, memory seats/mirrors/steering wheel, power rear door w/kick sensor, rain-sensing wipers, power tilt steering wheel)
The car he sent me has all of my must-haves, and all of my nice-to-haves except for the cold weather package - which doesn't surprise me, I don't expect a lot of those allocated to the Atlanta area. We take a lot of road trips to NY for the winter, so that would have been nice. And none of the do-not-wants.
Exterior color is my #2 choice, Cloudburst Gray, and interior is also my #2, Rioja Red. The only problem? Those 20" wheels...I think they look nice and the slightly harsher ride doesn't bother me, but they aren't worth $1300 to me. I've sent him an email asking if they can be swapped for the stock 18s, but I anticipate the answer there to be no.
One thing that would seal the deal for me (the car is at the very top of what I am wanting to pay) is if I am able to take advantage of the Lexus recent college graduate offer - that $1000 would offset the wheels and bring the price neatly within my range, and avoid my having to explain to my wife why the car cost more than I promised her. Here's the problem: I graduated on December 13, 2019...two years, two weeks, and three days ago. The fine print on the offer states that the deal is open to people who "graduated from an accredited graduate degree program during the last two calendar years". What, precisely, constitutes the 'last two calendar years', and is there any chance I qualify? To add to the fun, tomorrow is the last day of 2021...and depending on how that timeframe is calculated, tomorrow might be my last day to qualify.
$47-$49 would be a better deal for a 350 with just the premium package.
If your on a budget, I’d wait another year for more room on price negotiations. I highly doubt they will swap wheels because they will sell this vehicle at MSRP to someone else.
$47-$49 would be a better deal for a 350 with just the premium package.
If your on a budget, I’d wait another year for more room on price negotiations. I highly doubt they will swap wheels because they will sell this vehicle at MSRP to someone else.
I don't really expect them to do the swap either, but it doesn't hurt to ask, right? Maybe I'll get lucky.
Aside from that...yes, a slightly lower price would be ideal (although this vehicle has more than just the Premium package - it's got the HUD and 14" touchscreen), but it's a guess as to whether waiting a year would help. Not only with the uncertainty of the plague and the chip shortage/supply chain problems, but also domestic economic conditions - inflation, plus the fact that interest rates are likely to rise. When I started seriously thinking about the NX a year ago I was anticipating 1.9% financing (I'll be borrowing about half of the purchase price), but today Lexus is offering 2.49%, and I expect rates to only go up from there.
Bryan (my salesguy) just sent me an official quote. No mention of swapping the wheels (unsurprising), but he also quoted a bunch of add-on crap that I specifically said I didn't want:
I'm sure he can sell that car as-is by the end of today, so I told him I'd pass on this one, and if he can find a similar vehicle without the 20s to please let me know.
Bryan (my salesguy) just sent me an official quote. No mention of swapping the wheels (unsurprising), but he also quoted a bunch of add-on crap that I specifically said I didn't want:
I'm sure he can sell that car as-is by the end of today, so I told him I'd pass on this one, and if he can find a similar vehicle without the 20s to please let me know.
Nalley Lexus Roswell (Atlanta) has a couple of NX 350 F Sport vehicles available and they’ve been marked up to $64K! I was told the $5,000 market adjustment would apply to vehicles in allocation to be reserved with a deposit as well. Insane.
Nalley Lexus Roswell (Atlanta) has a couple of NX 350 F Sport vehicles available and they’ve been marked up to $64K! I was told the $5,000 market adjustment would apply to vehicles in allocation to be reserved with a deposit as well. Insane.
I was at Nalley on Tuesday, and none of the vehicles I saw (including the F Sport I drove) had that markup sticker - I was specifically looking for something like it. Sounds like they're getting a LOT of interest in those vehicles.
I was at Nalley on Tuesday, and none of the vehicles I saw (including the F Sport I drove) had that markup sticker - I was specifically looking for something like it. Sounds like they're getting a LOT of interest in those vehicles.
Fortunately, I can wait.
I was there today as well. And heard the same story about the markup. Basically told them not paying them anything over MSRP. I got the sense that it is negotiable. At one point the salesperson suggested that he will check if they can lower or totally eliminate the markup if I was willing to put a deposit in today. They are testing waters with this markup. I would be surprised if they will find a lot of people willing to pay this markup, specially because you start entering RX territory at that point. And there is nothing exclusive about the gas NX unlike the 450h+ which is the only PHEV in the Lexus line up.
I understand the harse noise comment made by the OP ( this could also be caused by warm-up or lack of break-in miles on engine) but I am am not sure I understand you comment about "not as smooth..." Where did you find information that the Lexus NX 2.4L turbo engine is not smooth? Depending on what RPM the turbo boost engages and the range you might get so initial turbo lag, but these days 4 cylinder turbos are very smooth , at least all of all of my last three have been. I think a lot of people completely underrate 4-cylinder turbos just because they are only 4 cylinders.
YMMV,
MidCow3
Have you even owned a proper Lexus with a v6 or v8?
There is no comparison on smoothness and noise. Full stop.
Have you even owned a proper Lexus with a v6 or v8?
There is no comparison on smoothness and noise. Full stop.
Yes, I have, actually had 2 Lexus with V6, but I am not sure why you are even bringing this up,
The inline engines are smoother of the same displacement as any V engine. But the engine compartment is not large enough in most cases to accommodate an inline 6 ( my old M3 had an inline 6) much less a inline 8.
What you seem to be confusing is a larger engine with more horsepower and torque, will seem smoother than a smaller displacement engine that is utilizing more of the RPM range and exercising the limits of the engine to obtain more efficiency.
If you are trying to compare a smaller displacement inline 4 cylinder engine, to a larger displacement v-6 you are basically comparing apples to oranges.
You see, being inline an engine is inherently balanced. Go back and read some engineering and engine motor background if you still doubt me.
You see, being inline an engine is inherently balanced. Go back and read some engineering and engine motor background if you still doubt me.
YMMV,
MidCow3
I said smoothness of the drive not if the crank is inherently balanced or not.
The Lexus v6 and v8 have counterweight balance shafts. You’re confusing smoothness with balance and theoretical with real world engineering of actual engines.
I said smoothness of the drive not if the crank is inherently balanced or not.
The Lexus v6 and v8 have counterweight balance shafts. You’re confusing smoothness with balance and theoretical with real world engineering of actual engines.
Fine, then buy the v-6 or V-8 NX when and if they make it.
inline is balance inherently V engine is not!
okay then buy the v-6 or v-8 NX