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Old Sep 5, 2025 | 04:57 AM
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We have Consumer Reports showing Lexus #2 in reliability but #1 among luxury vehicles. J D Power Lexus #1 in dependability and initial quality which is owners surveyed at the three years and 60 days mark. Here is a new study their first one that combines dependability and pricing and Lexus #1 among luxury vehicles.
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Old Sep 6, 2025 | 01:25 PM
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This is truly the toughest nut to crack! Takes a lot of effort for a manufacturer to give you good value for your money and also provide year of worry free driving.

Just watched a video where a garage went through all their shop data to see how much each brands repairs cost on average. Now after he got to Kia Hyundai he made note that their biggest issue they see with these manufacturers is that cheaper easy and early maintenance shows up and they're pretty cheap to fix. But after a few years and especially when warranty is gone the owners are walking away from these cars as they become too expensive to fix with the high cost of repairs because they jump into very expensive repairs that they refuse to do. Engine replacement is top of the heap. Poor engine designs are forcing people to junk these brands of cars because the repair cost is more than the cars are worth at that point.

On the other hand, Toyotas and Lexus were about third for average repair costs, with Honda and Mazda tops. But the reason is they don't see them needing more expensive repairs until they have 2 to 300,000 miles on them. And those repairs are for shocks struts, engine seal replacements like head gaskets etc. And even with these older cars needing somewhat more expensive repairs the cars are still worth some money in the auto marketplace plus the owners feel much more satisfied that the car has been and will continue to be relatively cheap to own.
He pointed out that if he had the time to figure total cost of ownership over the years Toyota Lexus would be tops.

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Old Sep 6, 2025 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TheCDN
This is truly the toughest nut to crack! Takes a lot of effort for a manufacturer to give you good value for your money and also provide year of worry free driving.

Just watched a video where a garage went through all their shop data to see how much each brands repairs cost on average. Now after he got to Kia Hyundai he made note that their biggest issue they see with these manufacturers is that cheaper easy and early maintenance shows up and they're pretty cheap to fix. But after a few years and especially when warranty is gone the owners are walking away from these cars as they become too expensive to fix with the high cost of repairs because they jump into very expensive repairs that they refuse to do. Engine replacement is top of the heap. Poor engine designs are forcing people to junk these brands of cars because the repair cost is more than the cars are worth at that point.

On the other hand, Toyotas and Lexus were about third for average repair costs, with Honda and Mazda tops. But the reason is they don't see them needing more expensive repairs until they have 2 to 300,000 miles on them. And those repairs are for shocks struts, engine seal replacements like head gaskets etc. And even with these older cars needing somewhat more expensive repairs the cars are still worth some money in the auto marketplace plus the owners feel much more satisfied that the car has been and will continue to be relatively cheap to own.
He pointed out that if he had the time to figure total cost of ownership over the years Toyota Lexus would be tops.
Nice write-up @TheCDN

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Old Sep 8, 2025 | 02:03 PM
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I appreciate the quality of Lexus vehicles. My first one was a 1989 Lexus LS400. I've never purchased another brand since then.
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Old Sep 8, 2025 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by rogeliorulo
I appreciate the quality of Lexus vehicles. My first one was a 1989 Lexus LS400. I've never purchased another brand since then.
my first was a 5-speed 1997 ES 300. Then I got a bright red 5-speed 2002 IS300 to replace my M3.I was disappointed and drifted away from Lexus for awhile. The I got on my economy kick and bought a Ct200h. The audio sucked and I paid $3,000 to have it professionally revamped. I have always admired Lexus quality and luxury. However, at times Lexus did not meet my performance and sportiveness objectives. However, I like the NX as a luxury cruiser and the hybrid has great economy. So I a, pure hybrid now, finally selling off my last manual shift high performance car. However, my favorite car now is not the NX, but a 2023 Toyota Prius LE FWD.



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Old Sep 9, 2025 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by midcow3
However, my favorite car now is not the NX, but a 2023 Toyota Prius LE FWD.
Cars of course have changed substantially over time, but the Prius is one of those cars that I find particularly fascinating how it has evolved from a super low powered experimental econobox to a very desirable very capable car. Back almost 20 yrs ago when I bought my first hybrid (Camry) I was also interested in the Prius (and I think the V was either just out or coming out soon), but I just couldn't pull the trigger due to its meager performance. It sure has evolved into a really nice car that checks many boxes. Sure, other traditional econoboxes like the Corolla and Civic have evolved nicely as well (especially the interesting sport models), but not so elegantly I think.
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