Squeaky Brakes
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I agree. I get the sense from the manual that the most dangerous speeds to perform improper actions is actually dead slow, because I think the car can't measure dead slow speeds accurately enough to ensure the driver doesn't select R, D, or P while still slightly moving or moving a bit in the wrong direction. At higher speeds that are easily measured, no problem, if you try to put the car into R while driving out on the highway, the car will refuse and just go into N instead (in theory, I have not tried it).
Push Limits, Break Rules, Improper Actions -----> Shortens Car Life, Breaks Cars.
YMMV,
MidCow3
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It would be hard to convince that going from N to D and D to N is a problem, you'll find a few skeptics here..
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I'll tell you one thing Toyota / Lexus doesn't program into their shift by wire system present in the 350 NXh: I can SHIFT FROM DRIVE INTO REVERSE WITHOUT STOPPING & OR PUTTING, and KEEPING, MY FOOT ON THE BRAKE! I get no beep I get no pause until I stop it just lets you do it. I stumbled onto this as I always park in my garage at home and I back in, so at the end of every trip home I come up to my driveway, I begin to brake, turn steering wheel to prep for reverse, and if don't stop completely I can still put in reverse. Well I also checked, I can creep slowly in drive and also put in reverse, without the need for brake application or coming to a complete stop.
I called my dealer on this several years ago to confirm that I didn't need a reprogram of my transmission. He tried it on a car on the lot and confirmed you can do it. This is about the most hardest thing you can do to a transmission (well yah other than putting it into reverse while flying down the highway, which I'll bet you can't do with these transmission shifters). I'm not sure the logic here other than possibly allowing you to 'rock' the car back and forth when stuck in snow or mud, and maybe this works only for very low speeds.
I called my dealer on this several years ago to confirm that I didn't need a reprogram of my transmission. He tried it on a car on the lot and confirmed you can do it. This is about the most hardest thing you can do to a transmission (well yah other than putting it into reverse while flying down the highway, which I'll bet you can't do with these transmission shifters). I'm not sure the logic here other than possibly allowing you to 'rock' the car back and forth when stuck in snow or mud, and maybe this works only for very low speeds.
Last edited by TheCDN; Jun 8, 2025 at 02:20 PM.
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From: Toronto, ON
I'll tell you one thing Toyota / Lexus doesn't program into their shift by wire system present in the 350 NXh: I can SHIFT FROM DRIVE INTO REVERSE WITHOUT STOPPING & OR PUTTING, and KEEPING, MY FOOT ON THE BRAKE! I get no beep I get no pause until I stop it just lets you do it. I stumbled onto this as I always park in my garage at home and I back in, so at the end of every trip home I come up to my driveway, I begin to brake, turn steering wheel to prep for reverse, and if don't stop completely I can still put in reverse. Well I also checked, I can creep slowly in drive and also put in reverse, without the need for brake application or coming to a complete stop.
I called my dealer on this several years ago to confirm that I didn't need a reprogram of my transmission. He tried it on a car on the lot and confirmed you can do it. This is about the most hardest thing you can do to a transmission (well yah other than putting it into reverse while flying down the highway, which I'll bet you can't do with these transmission shifters). I'm not sure the logic here other than possibly allowing you to 'rock' the car back and forth when stuck in snow or mud, and maybe this works only for very low speeds.
I called my dealer on this several years ago to confirm that I didn't need a reprogram of my transmission. He tried it on a car on the lot and confirmed you can do it. This is about the most hardest thing you can do to a transmission (well yah other than putting it into reverse while flying down the highway, which I'll bet you can't do with these transmission shifters). I'm not sure the logic here other than possibly allowing you to 'rock' the car back and forth when stuck in snow or mud, and maybe this works only for very low speeds.
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