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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 01:26 PM
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When I first got the vehicle and charged it, my EV Range was 37 Miles.. now it's up to 45 Miles. Does the HV Battery have a break-in period and improve after 40-50 charges?


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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 01:50 PM
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Any difference in outdoor temperatures now vs when purchased?
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Originally Posted by gamma742
When I first got the vehicle and charged it, my EV Range was 37 Miles.. now it's up to 45 Miles. Does the HV Battery have a break-in period and improve after 40-50 charges?

In the winter it can get much lower than the rated 61km in Canada. With the winter tires and colder weather, it's much lower in range. But in the summer it can go towards 80km / 50 miles.

It also depends on the country too. Some country ratings are even higher.

So it depends on the temperature
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Why isn’t the range higher?
I mean why isn’t it 75 miles at the minimum? Is this another thing that Lexus holds back on so they can increase the range on future upgrades to keep you buying every 3-4 yrs. Or is 37 miles of all electric range the most they could get at this moment in time? I’m asking because I seriously have no idea but 37 miles seems like a low # for the 450h+.

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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Xanadu350
Why isn’t the range higher?
I mean why isn’t it 75 miles at the minimum? Is this another thing that Lexus holds back on so they can increase the range on future upgrades to keep you buying every 3-4 yrs. Or is 37 miles of all electric range the most they could get at this moment in time? I’m asking because I seriously have no idea but 37 miles seems like a low # for the 450h+.
it’s limited due to battery size and the need to reserve some of the battery charge for when it switches into hybrid. Don’t think they’re holding anything back. 37 miles is the official range. We see about 40 in the summer. I’d say more like 32 in the winter.
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Old Feb 21, 2024 | 06:26 AM
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When you first get the vehicle the range is estimated based on some static kWh/mile number. After you start driving it the range is estimated by kWh/mile of your driving habits.

Drive around in EV mode with the heat on max and flooring the accelerator at every stop and you will see the estimated range go down despite the battery capacity remaining the same.
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Old Feb 22, 2024 | 04:45 AM
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I got my 2024 450h+ last May 2023 and here is my data so far for EV range:

Initially it has 60kms of EV range and gradually it learns our habit of how we drive and slowly increases the range.

May to November average of 94km/58miles.
December until now: 85km/53miles

It really depends how you drive it and how often you use the AC/heat. I always use HV on the highway and anything higher than 80 kms/hr.

If your garage is insulated/heated might play a role during charging as well.

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From Garage

kWh/100km

L/100km

This morning trip to work. I usually follow the energy efficient roads. ie: Downhill for more regen and flat when going back. Set your google map for Green

Driving PHEV/EV is an art for me

For wife "just drive" and enjoy

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Originally Posted by NSXT

From Garage

kWh/100km

L/100km

This morning trip to work. I usually follow the energy efficient roads. ie: Downhill for more regen and flat when going back. Set your google map for Green

Driving PHEV/EV is an art for me

For wife "just drive" and enjoy
You sure doing well with the low temperature. You using winter tires? Or the run flat tires?
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Originally Posted by lsft
You sure doing well with the low temperature. You using winter tires? Or the run flat tires?
Snow tires x-ice snow. Using original 18" wheels and just rubber replacement as it is too heavy to load/unload another set of wheels
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Originally Posted by NSXT
Snow tires x-ice snow. Using original 18" wheels and just rubber replacement as it is too heavy to load/unload another set of wheels
Similar setup, but I have aftermarket alloy wheels, but not getting that much range in the winter.
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Under ideal conditions I've managed to get my estimated EV range up to 102km. I've also seen as low as 60km in winter. I've learned to drive my 450 in a fairly efficient manner.
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Originally Posted by clmk
Under ideal conditions I've managed to get my estimated EV range up to 102km. I've also seen as low as 60km in winter. I've learned to drive my 450 in a fairly efficient manner.
what is the optimum speed for attaining your 100+km range?
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Originally Posted by gamma742
what is the optimum speed for attaining your 100+km range?
It's mostly been city driving, less than 70km/h. The average would probably be around 50km/h.

Whenever I drive at 80km/h or greater I always switch to hybrid mode.

Speed is definitely a factor, but I don't think it's so much about the speed as it is about how you drive the car and how much aircon you use, and what the ambient temperature is

Key points:
* Accelerate soft and smooth, don't use maximum power
* Keep distance from cars in front of you so you can maintain an even speed without slowing down and speeding up with them
* Approaching traffic lights, stopped traffic, stop sign, giveway sign, corner, roundabout, etc, back off early. Don't go belting up and jam on the brakes
* Brake early, slowly and smoothly
* If you don't need the A/C on, turn it off, but leave fresh air open and tilt the sunroof if you have one. You'll get nice airflow through the car when its moving forward
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Old Feb 27, 2024 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by clmk
It's mostly been city driving, less than 70km/h. The average would probably be around 50km/h.

Whenever I drive at 80km/h or greater I always switch to hybrid mode.

Speed is definitely a factor, but I don't think it's so much about the speed as it is about how you drive the car and how much aircon you use, and what the ambient temperature is

Key points:
* Accelerate soft and smooth, don't use maximum power
* Keep distance from cars in front of you so you can maintain an even speed without slowing down and speeding up with them
* Approaching traffic lights, stopped traffic, stop sign, giveway sign, corner, roundabout, etc, back off early. Don't go belting up and jam on the brakes
* Brake early, slowly and smoothly
* If you don't need the A/C on, turn it off, but leave fresh air open and tilt the sunroof if you have one. You'll get nice airflow through the car when its moving forward
I can do about 80% of what you do but we are driving a Lexus, should enjoy it. My wife definitely does 0% of your list and she is enjoying it. Happy wife happy life

I do 100% of your list when I drive my Prius Prime

In the summer I am getting around 94-96kms max but with your list, pretty sure 100+ is doable

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