My 2024 NX450h+ is the base model.

If I knew 2024 Executive comes with ML, no brainer but too late as 13 months of waiting was enough.

My 2020 NX300h served me well for the last 40+ months and replacing it with a NX450h+ is a must as I also own a Prius Prime for work and it is extremely efficient at 2L/100km 11.9kwh/100km since day 1 for 5yrs+ and still using it M-F 80kms round trip to work.

The only thing I really wish it had was the charging indicator near the bottom of the front windshield. I wonder if the RAV4 Prime has that? The 3 yrs app is free but after that you need to subscribe to see notification of the charging status Unless I am missing something that I am not aware of?

I have installed a lvl2 charger with Wi-Fi that can tell me how much kwh consumed when it starts/stops while the Lexus app is missing this important feature. Also I can't stand the 12hrs charging time vs 2-3hrs on lvl2 otherwise a kilowatt meter was sufficient.

The EV/HV information could be better compared to the Prime. Unless Executive/F-Sport HUD have different types of information that the base model is missing? I wonder if OTA software can provide that.

Information that I couldn't find like when you start up your car, the kms driven starts at zero since start .. that way I know from A to B how much I have driven instead of resetting it to zero manually at every start. My NX300h had that.

They are cutting corners for 2022+ like the right side mirror does not dim at night when a high beam is behind you. The door handle does not light up for the back doors, only the driver/passenger side.

The base model does not have a front headlight washer.. My NX300h had.. those are little things they take it away from us and have to be upgraded.

It is so hard to test/feel since the pandemic as there is nothing available to shop around. I'd hope supply/demand will go back to normal in the next 3-5 years before I replace this one and I should be able to order something that I like and tested end to end.

Lexus needs to step up the game on EV.. PHEV is a good start but it has been a 5+ years technology since the Prius Prime came out. Many EV similar prices are available out there but as a Lexus fan, I will try to stick with it but never say never. I almost jumped to a Genesis GV60 but no 5k rebates over there

Lexus is still good on reputation/equity but if they cut corners for simple things that I have mentioned so far, the population will shift for sure.

The next 4 years, I will enjoy it as it is until then

Last but not least, I have mentioned this to Toyota when I got my Prius Prime that the HV/EV button should be added to the steering wheel as I use it a lot for local/highway driving, uphill/downhill for efficiency .. I guess this will never happen.

Cheers,
NSXT

 

I can agree with that. I live in Rural America and it is more than the 37 mile capacity of using EV only to go anywhere and return home. All the shopping and doctors are at least 50+ miles round trip. So having the EV/HV Button on the steering column would be helpful.

I have a 450H+ Base as well but haven't noticed a lot of the things you bring up. I have only had the 2020 Toyota Avalon Hybrid so I am not aware of the Prime items you discuss. As for the ML sound system, I've had it on every one of my ES models (5 or 6 total). I have never liked that upgrade. Felt like it was a waste of money in my opinion. But when you select the Ultra Luxury model it comes standard. Wasn't ever able to delete it. But to each his own. Having been a professional Sound Tech, there are other better choices.

 

You're not wrong -- from ICCT newly published report:

 

Thanks for your input. 2024 comes with it on top of all the upgrades that 2023 provided was a big bonus but as you said, ML might not be as good but it is free as part of the package then why not

Oh and the "Panoramic View Monitor" .. That is an option that I will not miss for my next version. The front camera for head in parking for certain scenarios would be nice but I back in most of the time.

 

NOTHING is FREE.You're paying for it, I promise.

 

You are 100% correct. In Canada we have to pay around 17k to get into executive which comes with ML for 2024+. Not cheap for sure and high interest rate too