My 2016 LX570 will be here next week!
 

Nebula Grey Pearl with black interior.

Options include the 21" wheels
Rear seat dual DVR
Heads up display
Heater Steering wheel
Luxury package includes the Semi-Aniline leather with contract stitching
Heated/Ventilated seats
Smart Access card Key
Mark Levinson

List with options and delivery is $97,410.

Congrats! Please post some pictures here when it arrives.

What kind of deal did you end up getting on it, if you don't mind sharing?

The "deal" still has yet to be determined. I put $20k down to get the first unit I liked. Only two will be hitting Jacksonville next week, after that it will be early December till the next arrive. I will be holding my dealer's feet to the fire for my 2015 LX trade in with only 15k on the odo but I am not in the best position to bargain.

I will be glad to have it and there is no doubt there will be some images.

Thanks for the reply.

Awesome color combo! We need lots of pics and to know whether it's worth the 97k price for admission 😀

dealers are not going below MSRP for a 2016 LX.
but please do post pics here.

you guys are very lucky to have the 570 for $97k USD.

here is a screen shot of our local Lexus in New Zealand for the LX570

Note 1 NZD = 0.67 USD

hence $179,000 NZD is $120,000 USD....

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I very much doubt dealers won't deal on the 2016 LX. The fact of the matter is that there are very few people out there that appreciate these vehicles for what they are and are willing to spend $90-100k on them. The vast majority of people who are looking for luxury SUV and have this type of budget will go with the Range Rover or the Mercedes GL. Before someone jumps down my throat and says that the LX is a real truck and the GL is a car based crossover...I do understand that, but most people really don't care.

Greg...you are always in the position to negotiate, you can always get a car from a dealer in another city, I know Lexus of Orlando had a reputation for dealing when I used to live in Florida 5 years ago.

Very excited for you (like a kid in a playground, actually)! Do show photos and congratulations! You are an LX man through and through (#4, correct?).


That's what most dealers will likely try, for sure, but I doubt it will last (it was the same in '08 and in '12 with the '13 model). I also don't know if Lexus will choke supply on these like they did at the beginning of the run (and also in '10 when we got ours), but in the end, if anyone stands a chance to score a break (however small), it would be a customer like Greg.

looks like lexus has 1 color more there on your website.
in USA, only 6 colors. Your website shows 7. interesting

Congrats!
We are just as excited as you, so pls do post images. I wanna see how 2016 lx looks in normal cameras... all the best

Not sure if it worth that much to everyone but it is to me. I have owned a few and this one holds the excitement of picking up my first in 2008. It is going to be a different beast for sure but still have familiarity at the same time as while much has change, much has not. The new electronics including blind side monitor will be a welcome feature for sure. The front end will take some getting used too.

My dealer said there was little play in the list price but could help with my trade in. I do not expect to come out ahead here. Vehicles are a bad habit that I can not shake and am lucky to be able to afford.

I believe this is number five. Kinda funny as my first, the 2008 as Nebula Grey and now back to the same color. Last three have been black so the change is welcome.

Congrats! Great choice. They never had nebula gray back in 08 though, only from 13 onwards. The grey was different on the 08-11 ( Twilight Gray Metallic )

Yep you are right. Went back and looked at the paperwork. The Twilight Grey Metallic looked different depending on the light is was seen under. It was a great color.

Hope Nebula Gray Pearl looks good. Needed a change as my last three where obsidian. Loved obsidian but it did not seem to have a clear coat over it and was damaged very easy.

That's right - there was a '13 in the mix too, no?


For what it's worth, LX and GX are the only Lexus vehicles to retain Black Onyx (code 202) as the choice of black. All others switched to Obsidian (212) a long time ago. At one time, I had one of each parked side by side, and telling the difference was not trivial.

At one point, over 10 years ago, black onyx had no clear coat, and obsidian did. That changed, and even though many Lexus dealerships still say that Lexus black has no clear coat, that is not the case. The LX most definitely has a clear coat. It does get damaged easily, even if you just look at it the wrong way :egads: Major pain to keep up!

Nebula is beautiful; I think you'll be happy. :thumbup::thumbup:

Loved the black when it was clean and waxed but it was very particular to washing and waxing as it seem that it got micro scratches from just breathing on it. If it had a clear coat on it you could not tell.

Looking forward to the Nebula. Saw a vehicle with Nebula on it at the dealership and it was quite nice. I am pretty sure I will be happy!;)

Congrats on the car. It is a 9 month wait here in Japan. I ordered mine with the gold color (Name???) and white seats and black carpet. I put every option you could get on it. Plus we get a factory kit which I also ordered.

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You would think that your location would get them first but that is not how it works. Hope your wait goes quickly. Enjoy!

Nice looking vehicle, more cow bell for that!

I am sure you already knew this, but AL LX's are built in Japan and shipped. So yeah, you would think we would get a shorter waiting period. I hear they are going to step up production, but being that this is the first time Japan is seeing the LX, I am sure my wait will be long and drawn out. I can't wait to get this car. Its interior is probably on pair with the S-class. The seats are more comfortable , that is for sure.

Yep, knew they were built in Japan, not sure what other Lexus vehicles are also built in Japan.

The interior is simply outstanding in my opinion, it is a welcome change. Just noticed the new steering wheel and paddle shifters! So much new in the cabin.

Only thing I wish they would have done is a track pad to control the Nav screen. I am no fan of the mouse system and after a few days with the RC F, I found the touch pad to be much more intuitive. I would have been more happy if it were still a touch screen!

Funny, I was thinking the same thing. Then again, ironically, Lexus has been in Japan for barely a decade.

I also hope time flies for you, Dave600hL!

And I could not agree more on the need for more cowbell! (nicely stated, Greg!)

Only some RX are built outside Japan (in Canada), and just last week (or the week before) the first Kentucky-plant-built ES350 rolled off the line. Everything else is built in Japan, mostly at the award-winning Tahara plant. LX is built at a separate plant whose name eludes me right now.

Interesting perspective on the mouse and track pad contrasts, Greg. I've had exposure to both (on loaners) and am a bit mixed. I wasn't crazy about the pad, but it could have very well been a matter of getting used to it. The delivery of "mechanical feedback" (vibration) felt a bit abrupt for that type surface (i.e., finger to flat surface contact, vs. feedback distributed over a larger contact area when your hand is holding the mouse).

Anyway, I still love the interior of the new LX. At this point, I just have to stay strong until the next generation comes out.

Also I am disappointed with the no auto close door feature. $100K car that does not have that is wrong. I also welcome the lane assist like the benz has, although LX just has a warning, the s-class actually corrects your position, which can be scary sometimes.

crazy suv thing i have.
i am thinking of getting rid of my gx and getting new LX.
I am sure though when the new redesign comes out, everyone will want that too.

All LX's and Land Cruisers are made in Japan, and have been since the beginning.

I've heard it takes a minimum of 10 years on the job with Toyota to get a job on the line that produces the trucks. I've also heard that it takes around 20 hours of hand assembly to produce one start-to-finish. I've got no official confirmation on any of this.

Prior assembly shop was "ARACO", now it's "Toyota Auto Body".

I doubt production will be significantly "stepped-up". Both the LX and Cruiser are, imo, niche products for Toyota. I'd also opine that most owners tend to keep them for far longer than a Land Rover or MB product. Both of those tend to get into very interesting repair issues right around the end of the warranty. Audi's are a separate issue as to reliability. :confused::cry::egads:

Steve

If you or anyone gets below MSRP on the new LX, then by all means let us know.
Its a niche product indeed.
Whether it is that much more superior than a GX that it commands almost 40 grand more is open for speculation. All i hear is "its built bettter". Frame obviously is stronger for the bigger engine.
Im all ears. Open to comments.

There is no "speculation" if you have driven a LX before. The LX and GX are in different leagues. Go to your dealer and drive an LX.

agreed. i reviewed both cars and had each car for a week. the difference is substantial, lx is superior in basically every single way. my wife thinks so, and my kids think so too. whether it warrants the extra 40k i will leave that to ppl, that's too subjective.

Lexus dealer are typically not open a bunch of negotiation.

Nor, I discovered are Land Cruiser dealers.

The $40K delta between the 200 series and the GX is in the eye of the beholder. Some +'s for the 200's are a lot more cargo room, more than adequate horsepower :), and to me, the fact that the 200's are made entirely in Japan with 100% Japanese content. I'm not knocking the American worker but I have observed more than a few 4.7 and 5.7 teardowns (primarily on Tundra's) and there is a pronounced difference in engine parts between engines made in Japan and those made in America...forged rods v. cast as an example.

The 200 and older 100 trucks have a well deserved rep for reliability with few surprises over the years, and I tend to keep vehicles until the cost of a repair exceeds 50% of the book value of the truck...that's not even close to happening (and I doubt it ever will) on either my '01 LX with 170K nor my '13 cruiser with ~60K.

I don't need a new model every time a body change is made, but I understand those who do. I tend to save and spend the big bucks on farm equipment, and if you think $90K is a lot to pay for a truck, you'd have a heart attack with prices on larger tractors and the implements they pull...$90K for agricultural equipment is chump-change, imo.:eek2::cry:

Take a look at the resale values for used 100 and 200 series trucks, and then compare with GX's. That may be part of the $40K also.

hth

Steve

I guess if I did not have the extra $40k I would be looking at the GX, but as long as I have the money I want the LX. I drove a RC F for three days and while it was one exciting ride if feel like my life expectancy would have been limited. Reminded me of my motorcycle days where unlimited acceleration is on tap but so is the grim reaper. I am thinking seriously about buying the RC F to fill the empty slot in the garage, but it would be a weekend only vehicle for sure.

I have had my 911 and turbo Cayanne and when it comes to a quick trip from Jacksonville to Atlanta the LX rules. :cool:

honestly, if need something fun to fill up the weekend spot, get something else not the rcf

I plan on it. THE gx is 100% made in japan also, so not sure what is being gained here by saying LX is made in japan.

I feel the quality on the GX is top notch and probably best vehicle Ive had. Ive been thru 2 gx and the 2010 felt like a school bus, the 2014 is much much better. There is a guy here from fla who says his LX also drives like a school bus, aristocratt or something like that. Apparently he has a RR and the LX is no comparison to that beast.

The LX would be perfect if it handled and drove like the RR or better yet a porshce, but then again its a big suv so thats unrealistic to many here. More power would be nice two, like a twin turbo v8. I'l bet thats coming in 2019 or so.

My recollection is that the reference to Japan had to do with the irony that it's built there, yet the Japanese market (where Dave600hL) will not get the 2016 nearly as soon as the USA. If anything, FWIW, the GX is actually built at the award-winning Tahara plant, so there's nothing to be argued there.

When I made the decision in 2009/10, it boiled down to power and space. Coming from a GX470, I was beyond disappointed at the reduction in cargo space in the GX460. Price was also a factor: only fully-loaded GX models were arriving, ringing in at $68k and going at full MSRP, and thus, in my case, the GX-to-LX delta was less than $20k, making this more of a no-brainer at the time. As much as I liked the KDSS on the GX and considered the handling of the LX (which isn't its strength, for sure), we needed the space, and bang-for-the-buck wise, it was totally worth it.

the lx doesn't drive anywhere close to RR, there is nothing sporty about it. if that's what you want, go for rr or cayenne. like i said before i don't think the lx and gx handle too differently, that's both of them don't handle well from a sportiness point of view. but the lx drives a lot better than gx imho

The LX drives superbly for what it is, a >2-1/2 ton truck. That said, it out-handles anything else in its class...Escalade, Suburban, QX, Sequoia, Expedition etc.

Compared to the Range Rover, which may pull higher (but not much) g's on a skidpad, you're looking at apples and oranges. Any thing by Rover has a reputation for reliability (as well as the numbers to prove it) that's significantly inferior to anything made by Toyota, especially when compared to the LX or Land Cruiser. If the driver's lifestyle includes pretension and ostentation...i.e. "look at me, I've arrived", then Rovers are just perfect. I personally eschew that attitude and instead opt for something that won't leave me high and dry on a forest service road or worse 50 miles from the nearest paved road, let alone a city or town. I also prefer not to take on a 3 year lease for a car or truck. :)

In areas where AWD is a necessity, you tend to see Land Cruisers and LX's in about a 10:1 ratio v. Rovers. Anything I've seen on U-Tube regarding comparisons of 200-series Toyota products v. Rovers, G-Wagens, etc. show the Toyota products to be superior off-road. I was surprised by one video which showed the Land Cruiser to be the equal to a Defender on an especially snotty trail...with the LC's only draw back being larger.

That said, to each his own. Just make sure the Rover has storage space for the gold chains and wristwatch as big as a baseball. :egads:


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If I wanted a canyon-carver, I'd hop back on the Norton Commando cafe' or spend the money on a new 1000RR...though in your mid-40's you quickly discover your reflexes are not what they were in your early 20's...not to mention that your cojones tend not to overcome common sense like they often used to. In the end, it's all relative and whatever you get should be just fine. Cayenne's are definitely, like the BMW X-series, not particularly known as decent off-road vehicles, nor even ski wagons.

If you're looking at what a bone-stock Land Cruiser can do on a trail I would not even try on a Range Rover, or if you're looking for a bunch more horsepower, check the Ouray and Supercharger threads currently on page 1 of the 200-Series forum on ih8mud.com. http://forum.ih8mud.com/forums/200-series-cruisers.136/

Sorry for the rant, but there's only so much handling you an get out of a large truck with a relatively high center of gravity...simply the nature of the beast.

Steve

From what I have been told, the production about 1700 cars a month and with the Japan market coming into play for the first time they stepped up production by an extra 300 units a month. That is a fair jump in units built.

My dealer says there are only 4 new LX units heading to Jacksonville. It will be late November or December before more arrive.

dont get me wrong folks, i love the LX and looking to move up, just trying to justify whether I should or wait and the
pluses/minuses. ggebhardt please post up pics of your LX. I am wondering whether the turn signals flow like in the UAE videos we saw. I saw an LX in california that did not have the flowing turn signals.

I think the one in the UAE is different than the one you saw in Calif.

It will also not look like the images in post 17 of this thread.

It WILL look like the images found in the Lexus.com USA site.

Thats pretty stupid on the part of lexus - no flowing signals here? The new rx has it.

The pic you referred to has a body kit on it. It should look like yours minus the body kit

I am waiting for my local dealer to get the 2016 on the lot. My local Toyota dealer already has one 2016 in stock.
Trying to decide which way to go. Not sold on the huge grill of the 570 based on the pictures that I have seen; but waiting to see it in person before I decide which route to go.
By the way, overseas Toyota sells two versions of the LandCruiser: the equivalent of the LX 570 and a smaller one that is the equivalent of the GX and goes by names like Land Cruiser Prado.