Originally Posted by faifai83

Does the LS 460 email you monthly with your mileage, oil level and key fob battery level?

How many ways is the LS 460 driver's seat?

Is the steering wheel heated on the LS 460?

How many watts is the audio on the LS 460?

Originally Posted by AJT123

Per Motor Trend

0-60:

LS500 5.3; LS460 5.6.

Not trying to talk negative about your cars but dropping the V8 was a fatal mistake. .3 seconds is not a significant difference.

I've never heard anything but incredible engine praise for any V8 LS. Literally not one negative thing, other than maybe the 460 was a little slower than the competition.

Motor Trend said the 500 feels sluggish with moderate throttle and that the engine "struggles to move it"; even Consumer Reports said the car posts good numbers but doesn't feel particularly powerful in around town driving until the turbos spool. That's not necessarily a knock against this specific Lexus V6tt, it's just the turbo crap in general. Bring back the V8, IDK what Lexus was thinking. Lexus LS always held the crown of having the world's smoothest V8. That's dead and gone.

My 290hp V8 feels effortlessly powerful at any RPM. Great torque. Hardly ever goes above 2300 RPM. No waiting for anything. It's the perfect engine for a luxury car.

A friend of mine's parents bought a 500 who have always had LSs, he said it drives ok but sounds bad. They aren't happy with the V8 gone. There are lots of people, myself included, that have to have a V8 for the sound and feel. Especially in a luxury car.

No offense, I do not want to argue. But I still remember reading the original press release where they mentioned the V8 gone. Fatal mistake. Yeah and what happened to the power seatbelt anchors? That ooooozes luxury and I use it more than people would think. LS is the only car I can think of that used to have power height adjustable seatbelts that you controlled.

Originally Posted by AllinCLE

Fun fact: the same MY19 LS500 I drove back in May is still sitting on their lot! Talk about feeling vindicated, lol. I guess I'm glad they threw a wet blanket on my would-be impulse buy

Originally Posted by Lexuss07

It seems Lexus can't give these LS's away. The V-6 engine is a blunder, and their run flats was a bad move. Plus the vehicle is so damn complicated to operate. Lexus has really dropped the ball on this vehicle. They could have tweaked the V-8 in the current LC by putting in cylinder deactivation, and stop and start just to keep the EPA happy. (Of course the consumer could get to deactivate these features on the dashboard if they wanted to). How I think they got 4.6 second (I am baffled, as they still claim) 0-60 is by them doing their testing on a 5% downward gradient at 20 degrees Fahrenheit, (turbos run best in cold weather).

Having personally driven the LS on a test drive in 90 degree humid weather last summer was not a pleasant experience. The A/C did not blow cold, and I had to floor it to accelerate from a standstill to merge into traffic (and I do not like to do that at all), and modulating the acceleration when the turbos kicked in was a pain in the ***. It felt underpowered at speed-- it was not refined and it felt cramped inside. I miss the power height adjustable seatbelts, and there was no button to adjust the airflow on the dashboard. You had to go 3 screens into the infotainment system to do so.

This model deters the prospective buyer, and it alienates current long term Lexus consumer. I hope Lexus corporate responds by doing something about the drivetrain, and run flats, but all I see is them just adding touchscreen as a the major modification here. The more they ignore the needs of the consumer, the more this brand will lose business, and market share to players like Genesis.

Originally Posted by joeshome

We traded our 2019 ES350 Ultra Luxury March of this year for a 2020 LS500. As far as we are concerned the LS is by far much better than the ES350. Most of all we were very disappointed with the wind noise in the ES at highway speeds. The LS is quieter and the V6 turbo has plenty of power to spare. We have owned LS models from the LS400 to the LS460 and were not happy moving to the ES.

Joe

Originally Posted by mafpolo

I had an LS430 UL for twelve years. It was four years old when I bought it. When I sold the car, it had 106,000 miles on it. It still looked new inside and out. I loved it. I replaced it with a Porsche Cayenne diesel, which I have really enjoyed. So far, trouble free, but the maintenance costs are outrageous. The attitude of "if you can afford a Porsche, you shouldn't complain about maintenance costs. The Cayenne I have listed at about the cost of a base LS500. A new Cayenne is about the same price as a new well equipped Ls500, so the maintenance relative to price doesn't hold. I don't have the same confidence to own the Cayenne for as long as the LS430. Over the time I owned the LS430, the only problems I had were a failed air suspension (replaced with coils and springs), and a radiator replacement. I have been starting to look at certified LS500's. I have not driven one yet. I am also surprised that there aren't many out there, and the resale values are high. Perhaps I should wait six months until the 2018's start coming off of lease, whch would mean more supply.