Scathing Review LS500h
#16
Moderator
A touchscreen has to be located in a place where the driver can touch it. When the interior design moves the screen up and closer to the windshield (where it's easier to read), it can't be a touchscreen any more, and we are left with mouse-substitutes.
#17
On the hardware side of things, the touchpad and the trackpad are just terrible design and implementation. Cadillac had a similar touchpad on the CT6 that they are switching to a rotating **** based interface for MY2019. Automaker should really stop doubling down on stupid ideas that doesn't work.
#18
It is a good idea to offer redundant user controls. You can have touch screen, plus physical controller accessible in the middle by both the passenger and driver, and some controls on the steering wheel. See BMW 5 and 7 series. Actually BMW even added gesture control on top of all that, which I think is too gimmicky. Mercedes still don't like touchscreen, but Audi is adapting.
Frankly I am shocked that Toyota hasn't found and hired someone that knows the basics of Human Computer Interaction for such a long time.
#19
Lexus Fanatic
Never say never. Apple CarPlay is officially coming to Toyota and Lexus vehicle, starting with the new Corolla and RAV4.
On the hardware side of things, the touchpad and the trackpad are just terrible design and implementation. Cadillac had a similar touchpad on the CT6 that they are switching to a rotating **** based interface for MY2019. Automaker should really stop doubling down on stupid ideas that doesn't work.
On the hardware side of things, the touchpad and the trackpad are just terrible design and implementation. Cadillac had a similar touchpad on the CT6 that they are switching to a rotating **** based interface for MY2019. Automaker should really stop doubling down on stupid ideas that doesn't work.
#20
It's happing, as they have to if they want to remain competitive. The 2019 new RAV4 has a lot less 'blocking'. Full access to CarPlay Nav and features, and Entune works with less grey out, and ability to enter address on the drive.
#21
Lexus Fanatic
I'll have to see that to believe it. I've owned and currently own other cars with similar blocking, Lexus isn't alone there.
#22
Some humans even when seeing things don't believe it. But, it exists! It's still on display at the NY International Auto show. Go check it out and speak with the reps!
#23
Drove LX and a Cayenne in addition to the LS. Now have a Cayenne in the garage. The electronics and performance are simply no match for the Cayenne. I still have a 2011 LX in the garage keeping the Cayenne company.
#24
Congrats! Enjoy! Porche has really come a long way in reliability as well.
#25
Intermediate
Thread Starter
Anyone that has a unbiased open mind - and cross shops the LS (or LX) ... instantly knows how lacking LEXUS is.
#26
Lexus Fanatic
You know people can disagree with you without being “biased and closed minded”. Your opinion isn’t the gold standard.
#27
Intermediate
Thread Starter
And for sure - neither is yours
#28
Lexus Fanatic
If you notice I keep saying "I think" and "to me" and "in my opinion".
And in any event, the LS500 was #2 in the segment handily outselling everything but the S Class last month, so clearly to enough people its not an issue.
And in any event, the LS500 was #2 in the segment handily outselling everything but the S Class last month, so clearly to enough people its not an issue.
Last edited by SW17LS; 04-05-18 at 05:31 PM.
#29
This must be hard for Lexus to admit, but the Dodge infotainment system called uConnect is perhaps the best on the market today. Based on garmin, it's very easy to use and very intuitive. All touch screen. And the new version now available on the new RAM trucks is even better, with a giant screen. The german systems aren't bad either but they're obviously more complicated to use.
As for the new LS as a car, they lost me when they ditched the V8. If the the Asian luxury option is a only offered as a V6, Lexus makes me think the new Acura RLX is a better option for much less money.
As for the new LS as a car, they lost me when they ditched the V8. If the the Asian luxury option is a only offered as a V6, Lexus makes me think the new Acura RLX is a better option for much less money.
#30
Lexus Fanatic
The uConnect is really good I agree. Have you seen the second gen big screen uConnect that’s coming in the new Ram?